Is stockpiling oats an easy way to survive this pandemic?

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08 Apr 2020, 6:17 pm

Not sure I ever read anyone stockpiling this specific food... pasta maybe, which I suppose could still work considering there are large bags and they don't expire for a while, but they require time to cook and I've never liked cooking even something as simple as boiling pasta... and it's not like oats are ready to eat from the pack, but they require five minutes maximum to prepare hot water vs. half an hour or so for pasta (plus needing the kitchen)...

I've just been trying to think on an optimal sort of solution for this and any other pandemic in the future, as it's still risky to order shopping regularly... I should have done this months ago, really, as I think I might have still caught something (which, thanks to dysfunctional politics I can't confirm, nooo, even health workers are getting the wrong results, wtf)... and I've only awoken to the oats solution as I was too weak to go down and up like I do usually to prepare a pizza (microwave of course, no cooking)... and so, I don't know if it was covid or something tangential, nor if I can catch it again or perhaps another strain, but really, I think this is the best I can think of... as getting pizzas imported from all over is risky it seems to me now (even if they think it's not transmittable through food like norovirus, there's too many possibilities with boxes and plastics which covid is apparently very sticky to... and how else otherwise did I become a bit feverish? I haven't gone out since Oct goddammit, it's like I've always trained for a pandemic, and here I'm strangely observing these people who think it's the quarantine that will kill them and not a virus...)



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08 Apr 2020, 6:34 pm

No, long distance runners have tried the oats only approach and on day five they had to deviate from their route and run to the nearest shop.

Even for endurance athletes oats more than once a day is too depressing.

A 5kg bag of muesli and a few cartons of almond milk is probably more palatable in the long,run. No single food is going to be ideal.



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08 Apr 2020, 6:52 pm

Just boil water. Put the pasta in. Wait 10 minutes. Strain the pasta. Put spaghetti sauce on it. Now you got a meal.



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08 Apr 2020, 7:08 pm

Buy a bag of rice and a cheap automatic rice cooker. They have a clever magnetic circuit that shuts off when the water has boiled off. Amazingly reliable. Even easier than cooking pasta!



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09 Apr 2020, 7:41 am

Oats are a pretty good addition to a stockpile- they keep well, don't take up too much space, and they're an excellent wholegrain carbohydrate. Add UHT milk and you've got protein too. Only trouble is, they don't go that well with meat, vegetables etc. Oats have a lot of vitamins and minerals for a grain, but not enough to meet your daily needs on their own.

So for a balanced diet you'd need some other kind of carbs as well, plus tinned veg or meat to have with it. Couscous is a good one. Not the sachets of ready-cooked stuff, but dried. Dried couscous cooks in 5 minutes- just pour boiling water on it and stick a lid on top. A 500g pack of couscous is enough for 10 meals. Plus, the panic-buyers don't seem to be targeting it. Very glad I had some in the house- it got me through the first week when my brain wasn't really up to cooking.


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09 Apr 2020, 7:50 am

^ +1 for couscous.

If all you have is a kettle it's ideal. I like it with spring onion and carrot, chilly powder and olive oil and salt. That doesn't require cooking if you cut the veg small enough.

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09 Apr 2020, 8:28 am

I have bought a large amount of oats (for porridge) dried peas ( for soup and mushy peas ) which are cheap and nourishing. Dried beans, rice and pasta. Canned goods such as tuna, tomatos, pickles, olives, dried fruit and nuts, tea, coffee, wine and chocolate. There are no eggs to be found already in Israel and I anticipate that before long fresh produce will be scarce.


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09 Apr 2020, 8:33 am

Teach51 wrote:
I anticipate that before long fresh produce will be scarce.

Thought about sprouting seeds like alfalfa and mung beans?



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09 Apr 2020, 8:33 am

Israel has already flattened the curve, it seems to me.

I bet you folks will come out of lockdown—or at least have way less restrictions—in two weeks’ time.



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09 Apr 2020, 8:46 am

domineekee wrote:
Teach51 wrote:
I anticipate that before long fresh produce will be scarce.

Thought about sprouting seeds like alfalfa and mung beans?



Great idea!! Thank you!


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09 Apr 2020, 8:50 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
Israel has already flattened the curve, it seems to me.

I bet you folks will come out of lockdown—or at least have way less restrictions—in two weeks’ time.


We have reached 11 day doubling, which is better. The over sixties will stay a while longer in lockdown. Personally I think that it is just beginning and predict things will get worse here. Just a feeling.


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09 Apr 2020, 8:51 am

Are there food shortages in New York Kraftie?


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09 Apr 2020, 9:15 am

If one has access to a decent supermarket, and can can order online while in quarantine, I would say the answer is mostly “no.”

The shortages are mostly in things like toilet paper and germ-killing items.



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09 Apr 2020, 11:09 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
If one has access to a decent supermarket, and can can order online while in quarantine, I would say the answer is mostly “no.”

The shortages are mostly in things like toilet paper and germ-killing items.


That's good. Yes, germ killing items, toilet paper and eggs seem to be missing here.


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09 Apr 2020, 1:52 pm

There was some panic buying in the U.S. in the early days after people realized they might have to go into quarantine. But most of that has died down and the supermarkets are slowly becoming stocked again.

As far as your initial question about stockpiling oats, I would first have to find out if you liked eating oats. If not it will go to waste.

It is my belief that this pandemic is nearing its end in the Northern Hemisphere. But if you want to position yourself for surviving the future cataclysmic event, then I would recommend consider long term storage techniques. Many foods can be stored for 30 years with the proper storage.

These fall within two groupings:

1. Basic food staples in the form of dried wheat, rice, beans and other grains and legumes can be stored easily. The grains I recommend are stored in 6-Gallon Superpails. These grains are stored in a metalized bag to keep moisture and odors out. Prior to sealing the grains in the bag, an oxygen absorber is inserted. Oxygen absorber packet chemically binds and remove oxygen from inside the bag. Air normally contains about 78% inert nitrogen and 21% reactive oxygen, leaving about 1% for the other gasses. The packet absorbs the oxygen, leaving about 99% pure nitrogen in a partial vacuum. This will keep the grains fresh for a very, very long time. The bags are inserted in six-gallon Superpails. This protects the metalized bags and also keeps insects, mice and other vermin out. It is important to keep food in these
Superpails stored at as cool and steady a temperature as possible (below 75 degrees but not freezing). Food in this
form stored in a cool environment will last 20+ years. Thus you can avoid the problem of constant food rotation. The
Superpails are stackable and fit easily inside a closet. I found the cost of this food a little higher than the cost at a
grocery store. I recommend rice, beans, peas and lentils because of their ease in preparation (simply cooked in boiling
water). Wheat, spelt, barley and oats will generally need to be ground to make flour which will then be processed into
bread, pasta, cereals, etc. A grain grinder will be required to process this type of grain into flour. I have bought and used this product and give it my thumbs up.

2. Individuals can also purchase some freeze dried food to add variety and taste to the meal. Nitrogen (nitrogen back-flushed with less than 2% residual oxygen) packed freeze dried food in metal cans have a proven shelf life in excess of 30 years. This is relatively expensive food. Remember to rehydrate freeze dried food immediately prior to use by soaking the food in clean water.

The following are examples of the extensive variety of freeze dried food currently available. Meats include: ground beef, roast beef, white chicken, diced ham, italian meatballs, crumbled sausages, and white turkey. Cheeses include: sharp cheddar, colby, monterey jack and mozzarella. Fruits include: apple, apricot, banana, blackberry, blueberry, mango, orange, peach, pear, pineapple, raspberry, raisin and strawberry. Vegetables include: asparagus, green beans, broccoli, cauliflower, celery, sweet corn, mushrooms, onions, peas, peppers, potatoes, spinach, tomatoes, and zucchini. Freeze dried food can also take the combination form of entrees and meals. A few examples are: chicken teriyaki, beef stroganoff, seafood chowder, macaroni & cheese, blueberry cheesecake.

In the States, the following company can provide this type of foods: Emergency Essentials


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09 Apr 2020, 2:19 pm

(Footnote) 75F = 24C :)