What if they never find a vaccine for COVID-19?

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26 May 2020, 11:02 pm

Vaccines take years to develop, and some diseases they have never found a vaccine for. Take the common cold for example. That's a type of coronavirus, but there's no cure for that at all. You've just got to let it run its course. Same with stomach flu. Viruses that spread from human to human very easily are the hardest to cure. It seems that this COVID-19 is going to turn out to be another unavoidable virus just like colds, flus, coughs and noroviruses.

So then what's going to happen? Humans may never be able to hug again. Large social gatherings will become permanently outlawed. Vulnerable people will have to stay isolated forever and may never work again. Strict social distancing will always be life from now on. All key workers (including myself) will be under pressure to keep working to avoid spread of the coronavirus, meaning we will be unable to take any paid holiday. Leisure, tourism, flights and holidays won't exist any more.

Life will just be dull. Will it become like this if they cannot find a cure?


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27 May 2020, 3:53 am

for those with cadillac plan health insurance, or for those who are not amuuuricans, there will be treatments and vaccines similar to what they have for dominant flu strains, but for the lower part of the working class and the underclass here at least, it is no-man's land. inner city hospitals will be busier.



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27 May 2020, 8:12 am

Then the society will just deal with it. There might be stuff like constant reminders about good hygiene and such all around permanently and people might not be as eager to go to crowed places as before but, in general, things will return close to normal eventually.



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27 May 2020, 8:13 am

It seems like a vaccine WILL be found.

If not, we just have to deal with it.



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27 May 2020, 8:54 am

what won't change is that too many smug middle and upper class people will think they can't possibly catch it from the riff-raff, having not a clue as to how disease spreads.



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27 May 2020, 10:26 am

Ultimately, it will just join the pack of flu and common cold viruses circulating around, with everyone catching them in childhood and getting partial immunity, making later infections milder.
But it will take decades to get there.

In the meantime, there will be slow but sure improvement in treatments - this is already happening, the number of daily new infections is rising, the number of daily new deaths is falling.


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27 May 2020, 11:14 am

Then we'll all die.


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27 May 2020, 11:34 am

magz wrote:
Ultimately, it will just join the pack of flu and common cold viruses circulating around, with everyone catching them in childhood and getting partial immunity, making later infections milder.
But it will take decades to get there.

In the meantime, there will be slow but sure improvement in treatments - this is already happening, the number of daily new infections is rising, the number of daily new deaths is falling.

Sounds about right: that’s what happened with the Bubonic Plague, one massive pandemic followed by multiple smaller epidemics over successive generations. We’ve never developed a vaccine for it, and still have the occasional minor outbreak... we just developed better sanitary practices and rely on herd immunity to the major strains conferred by ancestral infection.
I think the last Bubonic Plague case I heard of was one kid in Ohio(?) within the last decade. Although having said that, I’m now remembering hearing of a cluster of cases in east Africa since then.



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27 May 2020, 11:49 am

In the long run, evolution of the virus itself will also play important role. If we keep paranoid hygiene in hospitals and not-so-paranoid hygiene in daily life among healthy population, the less virulent strains will reproduce more, promoting very catchy but mild form, similar to common cold.
There are other coronaviruses circulating and causing common cold. Some day in the past, they were new, too.


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27 May 2020, 11:54 am

smudge wrote:
Then we'll all die.


Exactly, and it won't be the coronavirus, it will be the recession and poverty and lots of other economy-related factors.


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27 May 2020, 11:58 am

Oh yes, if we wait long enough, we will all die.
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27 May 2020, 12:25 pm

magz wrote:
In the long run, evolution of the virus itself will also play important role. If we keep paranoid hygiene in hospitals and not-so-paranoid hygiene in daily life among healthy population, the less virulent strains will reproduce more, promoting very catchy but mild form, similar to common cold.
There are other coronaviruses circulating and causing common cold. Some day in the past, they were new, too.

Now you’ve got me wondering if there was a super-ancient prehistoric common cold that was properly lethal, and what’s left is it’s weakling descendants after the big momma cold died out.



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27 May 2020, 12:39 pm

A vaccine has been found for the COVID-19.
Proof of work here
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27 May 2020, 12:46 pm

Human beings are the virus, and people need to die. :x

If life becomes perpetually dull because of Covid 19, congratulations! Now everyone else's life is just like mine. :mrgreen:



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27 May 2020, 7:31 pm

Joe90 wrote:
smudge wrote:
Then we'll all die.


Exactly, and it won't be the coronavirus, it will be the recession and poverty and lots of other economy-related factors.


Lol, I wasn't being serious!


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27 May 2020, 10:02 pm

pandemics last years. not weeks or months. all pandemics worth giving a s**t about do.
we're not "all going to die", life is not "never going back to normal", put that away right now

people are forgetting that the point of this whole quarantine was not to eradicate the virus (that will take years if it ever happens, which is unlikely) it was to make sure health infrastructures were not overwhelmed with sick people. on a long enough timeline, everything goes back to normal...even after the most devastating and disruptive events.

i guess until a vaccine is found we will just have to suffer our way through it, whatever it entails. i just hope the lessons we learn from this manage to stick around and aren't promptly forgotten


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