How can I stop being so disturbed by this???

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08 Oct 2020, 10:32 am

About 2 years ago I watched the movie Cannibal Holocaust, which was great with how they made it all look so realistic. But one scene did disturb me and to this day I still feel distressed whenever I think about it. It's where the people cut into a rodent (I think it was a rodent) while it was still alive, and it was screaming helplessly. I heard this scene was actually live, which is why I find it extremely distressing. Why didn't they knock the poor thing out before cutting its body open? Then it wouldn't have felt any pain.
My empathy for this poor creature is very overwhelming. Can someone please help me to stop thinking about it? :cry:


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08 Oct 2020, 11:22 am

I know how you feel. Cruelty of that sort has always effected me deeply.

Try to nudge those barbaric images out of your mind with more pleasant ones, I guess. That's the only advice I can offer, which is not worth too much.


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08 Oct 2020, 11:44 am

I am sorry you had to see that; I feel disturbed even reading about it. That's really sick to think about. However, there are some sick people out there who create movies like that. Those have to be people with mental disorders.


However, the best way to get not to think about it would be to try positive affirmations on traumatic experiences.



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08 Oct 2020, 11:55 am

I seem to have more stronger empathy for animals getting hurt than I do humans, but that does NOT mean I don't feel empathy for humans getting hurt. It's just a different sort of empathy, maybe because animals think in pictures and spend their whole lives avoiding predators, while humans think in words so are more aware of such danger in a scientific sense. I don't know.

And I don't think it's an Aspie thing to feel empathy more intensely with animals, because I've read somewhere that the reason why they make the characters in Tom & Jerry make human shouts when they're getting hurt instead of cat or dog screams is because it's not so distressing to the audience, whether they're children or adults. So I think it is wired into most humans to get more upset by animal torture. But like I said, I still feel for humans but in a different way. I mean, all the horrific stuff that went on in the nazi camps in WW2 disturbs me a lot too. Those poor Jews, and all the other people that died :cry: . Horrible stuff.

But with animals I feel more of a physical empathy, whilst with humans I feel more of an emotional empathy, so maybe I don't feel animal empathy any stronger, just differently. Do you see what I mean?


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08 Oct 2020, 11:56 am

I have not seen the film and I am disturbed by it.


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08 Oct 2020, 12:06 pm

I've never seen this film and don't want to. I was shocked to find out that my son watched this movie at a friend's house when he was only 14 8O :( This friend was into horror movies and I knew that, but I was quite upset that the friend's mom wasn't monitoring what they were watching. He's not allowed to hang out with that friend anymore, and doesn't even want to. I felt like such a bad parent! My son said the movie bothered him for days after he watched it, and he still doesn't like to think about it. Cannibal Holocaust was actually banned in some countries and is considered to be one of the most disturbing films ever made.

I hate cruelty to animals, and I can't stand to see it, or read about it (real or not). It makes me sick, furious, and deeply troubles me. I also hate cruelty directed at young children. I recently saw this horror movie called "It Comes at Night". It's a really stupid movie (in my opinion) but it got good reviews on Rotten Tomatoes so I watched it. I wish I hadn't. A man guns down a 4 year old in cold blood in front of his mother in this movie, then kills the mother. It still makes me sick to think about it/write about it.

I wish I could help you forget this, and I know how you feel. You should forget about it and have the bad feelings fade gradually away over time. That's usually what happens with me and my son. I hope it fades away for you soon!


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08 Oct 2020, 12:35 pm

Joe90 wrote:
I seem to have more stronger empathy for animals getting hurt than I do humans, but that does NOT mean I don't feel empathy for humans getting hurt. It's just a different sort of empathy, maybe because animals think in pictures and spend their whole lives avoiding predators, while humans think in words so are more aware of such danger in a scientific sense. I don't know.

And I don't think it's an Aspie thing to feel empathy more intensely with animals, because I've read somewhere that the reason why they make the characters in Tom & Jerry make human shouts when they're getting hurt instead of cat or dog screams is because it's not so distressing to the audience, whether they're children or adults. So I think it is wired into most humans to get more upset by animal torture. But like I said, I still feel for humans but in a different way. I mean, all the horrific stuff that went on in the nazi camps in WW2 disturbs me a lot too. Those poor Jews, and all the other people that died :cry: . Horrible stuff.

But with animals I feel more of a physical empathy, whilst with humans I feel more of an emotional empathy, so maybe I don't feel animal empathy any stronger, just differently. Do you see what I mean?



Exactly Joe. I have always felt more empathy for animals and really nature in general. They do not volunteer to be intentionally murdered and gutted. Trees do not volunteer to be chopped down and run through a grinder. Torture and abuse of animals and people especially children has always greatly disturbed me. I avoid watching movies like you mentioned, movies like that dominate television programming at this time of year.

Fill your life with beautiful music, walk in nature, watch movies and tv shows that have a positive message. Best wishes, do your best to find happiness and serenity.


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08 Oct 2020, 12:38 pm

I haven't seen the movie either, but am haunted by something I saw over 30 years ago that still comes to mind every once in a while. Wish I had some advice for you to make it stop but I don't.

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I seem to have more stronger empathy for animals getting hurt than I do humans

Do you think this is common for people on the spectrum? I have little to no empathy for people, but too much for animals.



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08 Oct 2020, 2:44 pm

I definitely have much more empathy for animals than people. Well, more than for adults and older children anyway. I mentioned I can't stand seeing animals or little kids mistreated. I don't like a lot of people.


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08 Oct 2020, 6:22 pm

Time.

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08 Oct 2020, 7:46 pm

Joe90 wrote:
About 2 years ago I watched the movie Cannibal Holocaust, which was great with how they made it all look so realistic. But one scene did disturb me and to this day I still feel distressed whenever I think about it. It's where the people cut into a rodent (I think it was a rodent) while it was still alive, and it was screaming helplessly. I heard this scene was actually live, which is why I find it extremely distressing. Why didn't they knock the poor thing out before cutting its body open? Then it wouldn't have felt any pain.
My empathy for this poor creature is very overwhelming. Can someone please help me to stop thinking about it? :cry:


Allistic kents are allistic kents. <shrug>

I seriously doubt it actually happened.
Computer-generated imagery is extremely realistic.
I think there are animal cruelty laws against this sort of thing in movies, these days.
Is it an old movie?

I'm guessing people have already pointed this out.
I just like using the 'K' woid. :mrgreen:



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08 Oct 2020, 7:50 pm

It’s a very disturbing image.

You have to realize that this didn’t really happen.....that this happened in a fictional movie.



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08 Oct 2020, 7:52 pm

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I definitely have much more empathy for animals than people. Well, more than for adults and older children anyway. I mentioned I can't stand seeing animals or little kids mistreated. I don't like a lot of people.


What sane person does? :scratch:



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08 Oct 2020, 10:10 pm

Though they did not kill the ginger cat, the trailer for "Man's Best Friend" has given me nightmares for 26 years. The effects were fact but still scary to a 12-year-old with the maturity of a 6-year-old. They also used a dog puppet to chase the cat up the tree as a part of the scene in which they tortured the poor kitty that way. I think he was probably more traumatized than I was.

The other movie that was really disturbed was the Grindhouse Horror, "Hobo with a Shotgun." Of the scenes I saw, no animals died but it was gory and in your face.

I don't like horror movies and I don't watch them because again, I think there are some sick people out there who have a twisted sense of entertainment. As Joe90 said, what happened during WWII was a living horror movie.



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08 Oct 2020, 11:47 pm

Summer_Twilight wrote:
Though they did not kill the ginger cat, the trailer for "Man's Best Friend" has given me nightmares for 26 years. The effects were fact but still scary to a 12-year-old with the maturity of a 6-year-old. They also used a dog puppet to chase the cat up the tree as a part of the scene in which they tortured the poor kitty that way. I think he was probably more traumatized than I was.

The other movie that was really disturbed was the Grindhouse Horror, "Hobo with a Shotgun." Of the scenes I saw, no animals died but it was gory and in your face.

I don't like horror movies and I don't watch them because again, I think there are some sick people out there who have a twisted sense of entertainment. As Joe90 said, what happened during WWII was a living horror movie.


There is a sizable market for this genre, so there are quite a few people that I would consider disturbed.
But with age, I am not as affected as I used to be.

The human psyche is: :eew:



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09 Oct 2020, 1:06 am

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Joe90 wrote:
About 2 years ago I watched the movie Cannibal Holocaust, which was great with how they made it all look so realistic. But one scene did disturb me and to this day I still feel distressed whenever I think about it. It's where the people cut into a rodent (I think it was a rodent) while it was still alive, and it was screaming helplessly. I heard this scene was actually live, which is why I find it extremely distressing. Why didn't they knock the poor thing out before cutting its body open? Then it wouldn't have felt any pain.
My empathy for this poor creature is very overwhelming. Can someone please help me to stop thinking about it? :cry:


Allistic kents are allistic kents. <shrug>

I seriously doubt it actually happened.
Computer-generated imagery is extremely realistic.
I think there are animal cruelty laws against this sort of thing in movies, these days.
Is it an old movie?


It's not something I think about every day by the way, but it just pops in my mind sometimes and I get really disturbed by it. Maybe it's because I have pet rats myself, which are rodents, so that might be why I am so disturbed by it.

If it is true that it's CGI, then I can feel more relaxed about it.



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Do you think this is common for people on the spectrum? I have little to no empathy for people, but too much for animals.


I've already explained the empathy thing. I feel physical empathy for animals, but emotional empathy for humans. I don't want people to go thinking I lack empathy for humans.


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