COVID vaccines

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I want to have the vaccine when it's my turn but I keep hearing scary things about it on Facebook that I don't know are true or not, and it's putting me off. Today someone shared a post saying that people have died in Norway after receiving one of the COVID vaccines (the pfifter, whatever it's called).

I'm hoping that isn't true, or if it is then it's just coincidence that they died from something else unrelated to the vaccine. OR I hope they didn't still die from COVID even after having the vaccine, otherwise this pandemic will go on forever.

A lot of people are doubting that the vaccines are going to end this pandemic. So what am I to think? What do I believe? Why do people have to keep sharing these things on Facebook?

All medicines and vaccines have some level of risk, but it's normally very small. And definitely a lot smaller than the risks from Covid-19.

There's also always going to be a small number of people who don't get to live a long life anyway. There's a temptation for critics to leap on any death post-vaccine as being automatically the fault of the vaccine when it could actually have been sheer, random bad luck. An entirely unrelated issue that just happened to crop up at the same time. That's statistical white noise and needs to be filtered out before we can draw any conclusions about vaccine safety. Most of the negative FB posts I've seen, involving lots of exclamation marks and CAPITAL LETTERS!! !! have been based on news stories where the cause of death is still under investigation. They're clearly hoping to hook people into their message with eye-catching and hysterical commentary, while hoping not too many people read the source information properly.

At the end of the day we're all going to die, the question is when, and by what means?

Heart attack?
Car accident?
Covid-19?
Reaction to Covid-19 vaccine?
Drowning in liquid chocolate?

Some of these are a lot more likely than the others.

When a person enters a nursing home, many times they are at deaths door. What is happening in Norway at the moment is that they are vaccinating the oldest and frailest individuals and a few are dying. But many of these old and frail individuals are dying even without receiving the vaccine. IMHO, their deaths are likely more related to the fact that they are old and frail rather than related to the vaccine.

Doctors in Norway have been told to conduct more thorough evaluations of very frail elderly patients in line to receive the Pfizer BioNTec vaccine against covid-19, following the deaths of 23 patients shortly after receiving the vaccine.

“It may be a coincidence, but we aren’t sure,” Steinar Madsen, medical director of the Norwegian Medicines Agency (NOMA), told The BMJ. “There is no certain connection between these deaths and the vaccine.”

“Norwegian authorities have prioritised the immunisation of residents in nursing homes, most of whom are very elderly with underlying medical conditions and some of whom are terminally ill. NOMA confirm the number of incidents so far is not alarming, and in line with expectations. All reported deaths will be thoroughly evaluated by NOMA to determine if these incidents are related to the vaccine. The Norwegian government will also consider adjusting their vaccination instructions to take the patients’ health into more consideration.

More than 20 000 doses of the vaccine have been administered over the past few weeks in Norway and around 400 deaths normally occur among care home residents every week.

Source: Covid-19: Norway investigates 23 deaths in frail elderly patients after vaccination

We’ve had very few adverse reactions in the US.....I haven’t heard of any severe adverse reactions for at least the past two weeks.

As others have said, there will always be some who have adverse reactions to vaccines and meds. Happens time immemorial. This past week a Florida Doc died after having it. There may well be no direct connection to the vaccine itself, but they’re investigating. No-one can fully predict the outcome for the individual, and many within child-bearing age range are refusing to be vaccinated here in the UK. As kites mentioned, fear is often unwarranted, and yet, it’s practically sought by some. I am very much pro-vaccine, having never been immunised for anything from birth., and having caught anything going.
Article on the Floridian Doctor...
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/12/health/covid-vaccine-death.html

Reactions are idiosynchratic and can strike certain individuals without rhyme or reason, possibly based on unknown genetic traits, and there is no way to predict if someone is susceptible.

“If you vaccinate enough people, things will happen,

It’s said to be the most important thing we can do, to prevent against ill health and death pre-covid times ... I feel that now, it’s as important as it ever was.

Over here several patients died after receiving the second vaccine but following investigation it turned out that they contracted Covid before being vaccinated. The second vaccine has affected a couple of my friends quite badly, high fever, aching bones, weakness. I have my 2nd shot tomorrow. Mild cases of temporary facial paralysis have been reported. Wishing you all very good health.

I know 2 people (care workers) who had the vaccine and experienced aching and tiredness for a couple of days after, but are fine now. Maybe it's just your body building up a sort of immunity to the COVID virus?

As long as the side effects are just that and no long-term illnesses or damage, then I'm fine with it. I heard of some people getting flu symptoms after getting their annual flu vaccine.

I'm still scared about the vaccine damaging my brain, either turning me into a low-functioning autistic, or developing epilepsy or something. I don't know how fragile adult AS brains are.

Hey, I had a biology lesson today and talked with my teacher about it. They said that it's as safe as other vaccines when it comes to side effects, some people might get side effects due to compromised immune system, and they wouldn't want to make a bad vaccine. They also said that they knew a lot of anti-vax misinformation is going on at the moment. Hope that helps.

If you're more afraid of Covid than the vaccine, have the vaccine.
If you're more afraid of the vaccine than Covid, don't volunteer straight away, you won't be under pressure whilst there are people considered to be at more or as much risk.
If you're not afraid of Covid then don't bother yourself with it.