I don't want to be on the horrible autism spectrum any more

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16 Aug 2021, 12:52 am

It makes people go on shooting/stabbing rampages. It's never mental health issues on its own, it's always mental health issues with autism. So really it is autism that causes the mental health issues that causes the murderous behaviour. Otherwise, why do so many killers turn out to be autistic?

I'm so scared that this is harming our reputation. Does schizophrenia have this same stigma attached to it? I'd have thought schizophrenia was more likely to cause antisocial behaviour, not autism.

But I can't live with myself being on the autism spectrum any more. There's been one too many autistic killers now and I am appalled. I can't believe I share a spectrum with these such evil nutcases. :roll: :cry:

This is why I am ashamed of having an ASD and why I don't tell anybody about it, not even my own boyfriend. I don't want people to go thinking I'm capable of murder, because that's where it's heading in the media.

f**k autism. It's a f*****g dangerous, psychotic brain dysfunction. :x


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16 Aug 2021, 1:08 am

You can always undiagnose yourself and say you have Joe90's disorder but there is no other label that fits you so ASD was the closest match for your diagnoses. Maybe you have a disorder that has not been discovered yet.


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16 Aug 2021, 1:51 am

There's always going to be a tiny minority of people with any given disorder who turn out to be killers or criminals. Most of us aren't. But yes, I do know people tend to generalize, which is why there are problems in the world such as racism. For instance the people who plan racist attacks against Asians (mostly Chinese), somehow thinking they're to blame for Covid, or who automatically assume that black people are criminals, or that gay people must all be pedophiles that must be kept away from your kids.

There will always be criminally insane folk who are left handed, autistic, bipolar, transgender, gay or whatever other category they fall into.

By far the most people in all these categories would never harm anyone.


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16 Aug 2021, 6:27 am

I’m certain you are not a murderer—and that no one around you thinks you’re a murderer.

People don’t associate “autistic” with “murderer.”

They tend to think we’re nerds.



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16 Aug 2021, 8:18 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
They tend to think we’re nerds.

That only means that aspie will make sure that the stream from their murder spree will be top notch. Which makes me wonder if Tarrant wasn't lightly on the spectrum, his stream was decent enough...



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16 Aug 2021, 10:27 am

Joe90 wrote:
It makes people go on shooting/stabbing rampages. It's never mental health issues on its own, it's always mental health issues with autism. So really it is autism that causes the mental health issues that causes the murderous behaviour. Otherwise, why do so many killers turn out to be autistic?

I'm so scared that this is harming our reputation. Does schizophrenia have this same stigma attached to it? I'd have thought schizophrenia was more likely to cause antisocial behaviour, not autism.

But I can't live with myself being on the autism spectrum any more. There's been one too many autistic killers now and I am appalled. I can't believe I share a spectrum with these such evil nutcases. :roll: :cry:

This is why I am ashamed of having an ASD and why I don't tell anybody about it, not even my own boyfriend. I don't want people to go thinking I'm capable of murder, because that's where it's heading in the media.

f**k autism. It's a f*****g dangerous, psychotic brain dysfunction. :x


Autism doesn't = Murderer ..

no different than saying if you are a woman you have blonde hair , and if you are a man you have black hair .

everything is individual basis .



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16 Aug 2021, 10:40 am

Any human could be capable of murder, most don't do that however.


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16 Aug 2021, 10:43 am

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Autism doesn't = Murderer ..

no different than saying if you are a woman you have blonde hair , and if you are a man you have black hair .

everything is individual basis .


These people that go on shooting or knife rampages seem to be autistic. It always seems to be the same story; some young man has an obsession with guns or serial killers, shoots their mother, shoots random innocent people, then finally shoots themselves. Then it's all in the news and the word autism gets mentioned. It's happening too regularly now, enough to make the public become afraid of autistic people. I don't think any autistic women have murdered anyone like this. I suppose they'll start soon. :roll:


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16 Aug 2021, 10:48 am

If you look at the history, most of the mass murderers, spree murderers, serial murderers, etc. were not autistic. Some of them were even very proficient socially.



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16 Aug 2021, 11:14 am

They have other comorbidities that might or might not include autism. I've organized and attended many autism socials here in my city and have never felt in the least that one of them is suddenly going to whip out a gun or knife and terminate us! One of them is a really huge guy that everyone has to look up to in order to talk to, but he's as gentle as a St Bernard.


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16 Aug 2021, 11:46 am

Then why are they reluctant to give autistic people guns? Although this maniac was allowed a gun, but in the newspaper article it said something like "he shouldn't have been given a gun if he was autistic" or something like that. So obviously autistic people can't be trusted with guns.


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16 Aug 2021, 11:48 am

Joe90 wrote:
Then why are they reluctant to give autistic people guns? Although this maniac was allowed a gun, but in the newspaper article it said something like "he shouldn't have been given a gun if he was autistic" or something like that. So obviously autistic people can't be trusted with guns.


I think it is more autistic people that demonstrate violent tendencies and desire to harm others, shouldn't have guns not autistic people in general.


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16 Aug 2021, 1:15 pm

The guy seemed to have gotten his gun license too easily. I wonder if he knew somebody influential.

I thought the UK was really gung-ho about gun control. Most police officers there don't carry guns.



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16 Aug 2021, 1:19 pm

I don't think autism was the cause of him (Davison) seeking a scapegoat to blame his romantic troubles on.

He had other sorts of mental troubles....and he had a sense of entitlement.



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16 Aug 2021, 3:43 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
The guy seemed to have gotten his gun license too easily. I wonder if he knew somebody influential.

I thought the UK was really gung-ho about gun control. Most police officers there don't carry guns.


They are, but public services in the UK are really going to pot, both the police and the NHS. The doctors just flap about covid and everyone with non-covid illnesses are getting pushed to the side. But that's a different topic. The police are atrocious now. They seem to be so gullible; they believe the wrong people, and innocent people with proof and evidence and everything don't get believed.
I mean, this Davison had a gun licence way before he was 22, and then they took it away after he became threatening to his father, but then they gave his license back. Why?

I just feel so angry because this could have been prevented. But thanks to the UK's useless, idiotic police force, 5 innocent people died.

I just hate anyone who deliberately kills innocent people. I hate them, and I hate sharing the autism spectrum with them. It makes me shudder. First it was Adam Lanza, then James Fairweather (a kid in Essex who went on a murder spree with a knife), and now this maniac. And I bet those aren't the only bastards that murdered people and are on the spectrum. These bastards seem to have guns and killing as a special interest. I never knew how dangerous special interests can be, and also with the "lack of empathy" BS listed in the autism criteria that just feeds the stigma even more.


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16 Aug 2021, 5:33 pm

:c Aww, don't say that. Even psychopaths aren't all killers. Theres no reason for anyone to think we'd be up to no good especially with the proof of how much more good autistic people have brought to the world throughout history.
Besides, autistic women have never been involved in shootings, have they? They usually tend to get killed by police shootings or abused in some way by the police.


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