would drugs help to loosen up?

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Several times over my life I have had an acquaintance talk to me. Sometimes the conversation turns to drugs, when this happens I am occasionally asked if I sometimes use them. The honest answer to that question would be no. I was just asked this question 5 minute ago by an acquaintance.

The last 2 times I answered this question I lied just to see what would happen. I told them that I occasionally use drugs. Both times I did this, the response was surprisingly positive. When I did it 5 minutes ago the guy perked up and said "really?" and the look on his face seemed to indicate that I had just gone up several points in his mind. Another time in high school I was asked by a girl if I smoked pot, I hinted that I might and she seemed surprised and said "really? we should party sometime" although I was never able to get her to make good on that invitation. They seem surprised though, like they don't expect me to be the kind of person who would touch drugs, and they are right, but I wonder how it is that they seem to know.

When I came to college I had a position that I would not use drugs, only free alcohol. I corresponded with my roommate that year over the internet before we met. It seemed like we were going to be really good friends until he figured out that I didn't use pot. With the social catastrophe that my life currently is I'm really regretting that I didn't take the opportunity. People seem to think that I am always tense. I had a cold the other week and started taking more medicine than was prescribed and found that it felt good. After the cold was gone I got some more medicine because it seems to dull my senses which keeps me less on edge. I'm starting to think that the only people I could possibly fit in with are stoners, they are too unaware to notice my bad social cues. Would being willing to start drugs help make me less tense and possibly find a group to hang out with sometimes?

The only problem is that I am so pathetic that I don't know anyone who would sell me any. If I take enough of the over the counter stuff maybe I'll loosen up enough to see the opportunities better. I doubt it will be a cure all but maybe it would help.

over the counter pot??

did I miss something?

Its only worth it if your smoking with other people. Being a straight up stoner is no good.. Burns a massive hole in your pocket and your brain

Starting to use drugs only to climb up on the social ladder doesnt sound too good to me. I have nothing about recreationnal drugs (I use some myself), but I have a profound disdain of people trying to promote it as some social standard. Not all the people react the same to drugs.

Do whatever you feel like : if you're curious about drugs, try some and evaluate the benefits they might bring you. But forcing yourself to use them only to fit-in is something I dont really approve.

Its not like people will start seeing you as a demi-god anyways, as using drugs is not something thats very rare nowadays. It might open up for some social oppurtinities at best.

People who don't want to be your friend unless you use drugs aren't friends at all.

My guess is you're all missing something. I didn't know how to address this thing properly and I'm not sure if I got it out right. It would have been the longest post in the history of WP if I tried to pinpoint everything that led me to post this. Oh well, I tried.

What I get over the counter isn't pot. It's over the counter drugs for allergies that when overused make you really drowsy, which is a better feeling than being fully alert when around people I find. I'm thinking about experimenting with other over the counter stuff to see what they do. Maybe not a best idea to experiment with them at the same time in case of a bad reaction.

I have gotten some invitations to smoke pot before which I have turned down. I haven't gotten one in a while but I'm trying to ask if I should take the next one. My main problem with drugs is that I don't want to spend that much money on the s**t. I don't get the invitations very often so maybe I should take the next one if one floats my way and see if it helps people to accept me into a group?

I'm not looking to be seen as a demigod, I'm just looking for someone to be willing to hang out with me. My life is so boring, even sitting on a couch with a bunch of zoned out potheads sounds like an improvement.

We're trying to help more than to bug you. At least I do. Maybe knowing what effect smoking pot really does is what keeps you hesitating about trying it. So here's my personnal resume of my own experiences with pot, if it can be of any help :

- Pot doesnt change your state of mind from one extreme to another. It alterates your toughts and judgement, but I doubt anyone ever felt like they're losing control over their minds when using it.

- Pot generally has a passive effect, which means you will feel like relaxing and do activities that require few attention or awareness (talking to people, listening to music, watching TV). If it render someone excited, it is to be considered a secondary effect. For example, some people when first using it discover its "entertaining" ability and behave in a joyful manner. In fact, pot makes you more relaxed, but not necessarly more excited or happier.

- Pot is not addictive per say. Which basically means you wont feel any physical constraint that will make you want more and more of it. If you use it more than once, you will most likely feel like its a rationnaly based decision more than any kind of urge to do so. Be aware thought, that it can become addictive to some people when used extensively. The best comparaison I can give you is with alcool : few people using alcool will become addicted to it, but addiction might be a serious issue for some others.

Those are the main points you might want to know. Some might criticize me for seemingly reducing the effects of smoking pot. As I said in a previous post, I have a profound disdain of those promoting the use of pot and thats not what Im doing ; Im only giving you facts you might want to be aware of when deciding yourself if you want to use it or not. You might find more about its effects (both positive and negative) browsing on the net. Feel free to ask any other questions... hope Ive helped.

you might as well start smoking the very legal tobacco if you want someone to welcome you into their group, Goat on Fire. You can huddle in door ways and make rude comments to the people rushing past you with their noses held. They are a tight group, those tobacco smokers, and talk about burning a hole in your pocketbook! (and your lungs!)

Pot. . well, they grow it here where I live and most excellent can be had for very little. I can take it or leave it. but I don't do it to socialize! when I come home from work, I sit like a lump until I go to bed. When I take a toke or two, the dishes get done, the house gets vacuumed, the bath gets scrubbed and sanitized, laundry, car washed and more. I guess it lubricates my arthritic back and knees, but I tackle the big stuff.

I lived with stoners for years for just the reason you mentioned, because they were not critical of my deficits as an NT. Lots of us found acceptance with the 'hippies' for just that reason, bless their hairy souls.

so, do what you want, but there is so much stuff out there you can get really hurt by, really strung out on (addicted to) it is difficult to 'prescribe' over a forum. Just remember it is easier to never start than it is to quit later, what ever you get into the habit of doing.

sorry you feel so bad, Goaty. . .

I know people self-medicate with alcohol to alleviate anxiety (it's a mild sedative after all). You tried that? You'll probably need too much however before you notice an adequate effect.

It sounds like you like the "downer" effect of the cough medicine (less on edge); you could ask a doctor to get you a script for an anti-anxiety medication (Diazepam for example), and see how that makes you feel when in social situations and otherwise. Perfectly legal; like everything that helps, you build a tolerance and/or you can become [mentally] addicted to its effects if you take it for too long or use it as a crutch.

Rock and a hard place.

my DH smokes regularly and for him, and dare I say, for us, it is a good thing. Yes, it is expensive. Yes, it is addictive in a mental way. Yes, it is socially frowned upon by adults. Yes, it is illegal. But, it does smooth out his rough patches. It can change his mood when it desperately needs to be changed. It makes him less anxious and nervous. And growing up, all the friends he had were stoners, and he fit in very well with them all. Now, I dont do drugs, or drink either, but I am the perfect stoner girlfriend...
To be honest, without him being a wake and bake, we never would have met. So, take from this what you will...I dont advocate doing drugs, but sometimes it is a good thing.

You don't have to be a complete pothead if you smoke alone. As long as you don't smoke to excess, it doesn't have to cost a lot, and it doesn't have to have a huge impact on things like your memory.

One could smoke a joint at the end of a long week, much like how some people would drink a couple of glasses of wine. Is there really any harm in that? Other than inhaling smoke, which is not good for your lungs...not much else.

Anything taken to excess can be unhealthy.

When I had cut my smoking down, before I quit, a little bit before social events that I needed to go to helped me enormously. Smoking a reasonable amount means both smoking a reasonable amount at one sitting, and smoking a reasonable amount over a longer period of time. You can smoke once a month, and if you are going through an eighth or more, you're smoking too much. You can smoke once a day, and take a hit, and a small one, and not really be smoking all that much.

Pot seems to do some of us good, and others not so much. The only way to tell how it will work for you is to try it.

Remember it may make you paranoid. If that happens, try to keep telling yourself it's only the drug, and will pass.

Don't go for the harder stuff. You don't need that kind of grief.

What does anybody know about ecstasy? That's pretty popular at my school. I should have been more specific, I am hesitant about pot because I don't like the fact that it is smoked. I am an asthmatic and I hate passing by normal smokers.

There's more ways to use it than simply smoking it. As it doesn't sound like you've had really...any experience with it, saying you should go out and buy a vaporizer is asking a bit much. People that smoke it tend to congregate in some way or another. Just by obtaining some, you will likely meet some smokers. One of them might have one you can try, or the person selling it might.

Another option is cooking with it. You can find more info on that with a search engine, but you can make things like brownies (and lots of other stuff for that matter) that will give you an alternative to smoking.

You could also use some form of water filtration. Water bongs are the most common. You're still inhaling smoke, but it is easier on the throat and lungs. (You're still inhaling smoke, but it doesn't feel as harsh.)

One thing you have to know about E, it can never be trusted. Its the way its always been, you never know where it comes from and half the time the people who make the pills put anything but actual ecstasy in it. They make it in their basements, like LSD and meth cooks normally do. The point is that they are usually home made, by people who only sort of know what they are doing. Either they can make the potency too high or something worse. There have been a number of reports of people dying because they thought it was real E but instead it was something with poison in it. Besides the point that its incredibly dangerous, it also f***s your... well, you would probably end up falling in love with and bang the guy next to you, even if you are straight. So if you are then it will be something you will both regret
Not to say that Ive experienced it lol, but Ive (sort of) witnessed it and Ive heard stories so.. If I was you I would stick with the pot for when its needed most.

LSD and meth shouldn't be in the same sentence when it comes to fabrication. The latter, people steal the supplies for it from drug stores. The former, it takes some know-how, the right chemicals, and the right equipment.

Small-scale meth "labs" are not considered uncommon. I've never heard of a "small-scale" LSD lab.

As for taking any of the drugs: If it is a pill, then what guarantee do you have of what is in it? Don't buy from some random guy that offers it.