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sodarktheshadows
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09 Nov 2007, 12:21 pm

i'm so frustrated that i cannot express myself the way i want to or need to.
i'm always afraid i'll say the wrong things...and then i wind up saying nothing at all, or the wrong thing completely. i hate asking questions, because i'm afraid of the answers i might get. or that i might offend/upset someone by asking a particular question...
and then when i do get the courage to say what i mean, it is usually too late.
i just really hate being like this.
does anyone else ever feel like this? how do you deal with it? does it ever get easier?


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10 Nov 2007, 3:23 am

i get like that too, it sure sucks, u should try to just speak slowly and say what is inside. people would like to know, and would not like the fact that u held it in cos u did not want to offend. in my experience people would say things like 'why didn't you tell me?"
as for working up courage, take a deep breath and ask the questions u want to ask.

there is no benefit for holding your feelings in, u may upset people but it is their problem and not yours.



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10 Nov 2007, 5:57 am

it's not so much the actual speaking. it's the getting the thoughts from my brain to my mouth and spoken so that it is the same original thought....there seems to be some kind of translation that happens in between and skews everything....usually i like to practice conversations in my head before having them (if i can) but that doesn't always happen or the opportunity isn't there.
i think one of my problems is that i am too emotional, and have problems especially with that...everything i seem to do is based from emotion - i act emotionally and react emotionally to situations. does that make any sense?
as for people wanting to know....i dunno. maybe it is just the people i have befriended, but my experience has shown me that people do not really want to know how you are when they ask how you are. even if they say they do, they don't. and as for it being their problem not mine if i upset them, well, yeah actually it becomes my problem when i start losing friends because of it. and you may say that then they weren't really a friend to begin with....and i don't know what i would say to that, to be honest. i sometime agree, but other times, i don't want to believe it.
and having the courage to ask questions, yeah, i'm getting a little better with it, but usually, it just seems too little too late. but i continue to try.
and thanks for taking the time to answer. i appreciate your advice.


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10 Nov 2007, 6:09 am

sodarktheshadows I know exactly where you're coming from. :( It's hellishly frustrating.


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10 Nov 2007, 6:19 am

samtoo wrote:
sodarktheshadows I know exactly where you're coming from. :( It's hellishly frustrating.
Yes, even though I'm fairly verbal, I struggle to say the right things at times and get easily nervous and shut down.


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10 Nov 2007, 2:00 pm

so besides taking forever before responding to anything, are there any other ways you guys have found to make it any easier? or do you just deal with it the best you can?


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10 Nov 2007, 2:55 pm

One, we are out of sync, hard to start and the message gets garbled.

Two, we are concerned with things most people have never thought of.

Add to that many years of failed trying, totally wrong reactions, ended relations over a word.

In many ways I have become a mute.

People ask a reasonable sounding question, and no matter what I answer, they go off on me.

So I quit, now I just stare at them. They had to get me involved to run their game, and it leaves them turning red, shouting at themselves, and I said nothing. I might go pick up a hammer and ignore them.

I would say I do not like humans.

Here on WP is much different, ask a question get a lot of well expressed answers.

We may not be the person you want to ask, but we are almost people, and our answers will cover the subject.

It helps to practice posing questions, seeing how changing the question changes the replies, and here you variety.

Sometimes it is asking the wrong question, or the wrong person, and it is seen as manipulation, not as asking for an answer.

As for questions, ask away, you will get replies here, and we will not come burn you at the stake, I promise.

Once you have a working model, other's cheating at the game stand out.

I run across a lot of cheaters.



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10 Nov 2007, 9:18 pm

Inventor wrote:
We may not be the person you want to ask, but we are almost people, and our answers will cover the subject.

It helps to practice posing questions, seeing how changing the question changes the replies, and here you variety.

Sometimes it is asking the wrong question, or the wrong person, and it is seen as manipulation, not as asking for an answer.

As for questions, ask away, you will get replies here, and we will not come burn you at the stake, I promise.

thank you, inventor....this makes it make a little more sense...(my hero... :oops: )
i thought i would be afraid to ask questions here (actually, still am...) but i am finding that when i do ask, i am happy with what i am hearing...the understanding means a lot to someone who has not had a lot of it.

and i'm glad to hear that y'all don't burn people like me at the stake anymore...lol


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10 Nov 2007, 9:22 pm

I have been in this situation as well.

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10 Nov 2007, 9:30 pm

Inventor wrote:
We may not be the person you want to ask, but we are almost people,


What was that?... Almost people? LOL, :lol:


sodarktheshadows wrote:
i thought i would be afraid to ask questions here (actually, still am...) but i am finding that when i do ask, i am happy with what i am hearing...the understanding means a lot to someone who has not had a lot of it.

and i'm glad to hear that y'all don't burn people like me at the stake anymore...lol


Too expensive with the prices of timber now-a-days. :twisted:

One thing I do that may or may not help with part of your dilemma ...

when I really need to talk with someone and I know I may get emotionally carried away in the midst of conversation...
I write a letter instead.
I may read it to that person, or just give it to them and wait while they read it.

Otherwise, I usually get totally misunderstood.

I wrote a poem once and put in here somewhere...
Ah... here it is...
wsmac wrote:
Communication

I want to write.

I want to speak out with my voice and in my own language, and be understood.
I want to be able to move when I talk, in the way my body wants to move.

I rock, I pace, my leg bounces when I'm sitting.
I talk out loud to myself, I grunt and make small noises from time-to-time for no apparent reason.

I speak.

My thoughts crash through my head at break-neck-speed while my mouth attempts, in vain, to keep up.
And even more in vain are the efforts of others who try to tie together my words and sentences bestrewed before us in a sometimes jumbled mess.

My speech is riddled with gaps, small but annoying fissures, where words or complete thoughts have disappeared much to the frustration of my audience.
I know what I have said because I have said it in my mind; the sentence having passed by like a stream of lights flashing the message on an electronic sign.
You miss the parts I cut out as I speak and I don't know this until you stop me with a quizzical look and verbal cue that I've seemingly strayed off on another tangent.

Back to the written word.
These characters we have trained ourselves to recognize as readily as the thoughts that pass in our minds.
The structure punctuated by even more characters, symbols that substitute for vocal inflections, the rise and fall of pitch, the tone.
I play the music, loud, repetitive, to keep some corner of my mind full and occupied so that I may concentrate fully on that part of my brain overburdened by emotions, thoughts, pressing against the thinnest of membranes able to hold them all back.
My fingers tap against the keyboard, sometimes inconsistently, waiting for the next wave of thoughts.
I feel the rush and in rapid-fire sequences these mental images of words are transposed to the screen of my computer.
Words used to exist on paper for me, scratched into place with pen and pencil.
These works lay stored away in a folder, waiting for the moment I stumble upon them again and pause to reflect back on my life.

Writing frees my mind.

Yet still, I am misunderstood.

I want to draw.

I take pen to paper and allow my hand and mind to unconsciously describe a line, an arc, a shape.
I add to these with as little thought as possible.
Sometimes the pictures take on a randomness that is beautiful.
Sometimes the pictures take on a randomness that is confusing until you look beyond the largest of images, breaking up the parts, scanning for small intricacies that connect with something in your subconscious, evoking memories, feelings, or... perhaps... just more confusion as to what I really mean.

I have said it all.
These words I leave for you.
Fini


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10 Nov 2007, 10:07 pm

[quote="wsmac]One thing I do that may or may not help with part of your dilemma ...

when I really need to talk with someone and I know I may get emotionally carried away in the midst of conversation...
I write a letter instead.
I may read it to that person, or just give it to them and wait while they read it.

Otherwise, I usually get totally misunderstood.[/quote]
i have tried that, and have found that it does work a little better...but that only works if i have enough time to sit and compose all i have to say. if it is during regular conversation, it tends to be more difficult, and then if i have said something in a previous conversation, i feel the need to constantly be apologizing for things i have said that may have been misunderstood, or that i have misunderstood the other person having said...its frustrating....

and i enjoyed your poem btw...thank you. it helps to know i'm not the only one...


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