Nightmares.....then it came :(

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20 Nov 2007, 5:34 pm

Hey, been a while since I posted, but I wander if anyone can relate. I've always had issues with sleeping, since childhood really, but they were always issues with staying in bed, going to bed and sleeping through the night, but lately it has turned into something far worse, horrid random nightmares, which do not relate to any event or time in my life, they are completely unreal, often involving ghosts, aliens or anything along these lines, I doubt it comes from scary films, as these have never really gotten to me and I try not to watch them late at night too, they seem to be getting worse by the week, to the point where they are starting to bend my perception of reality and interfere with my daily life. I have regressed back to my childhood fear of the dark, having to sleep with the light on when bf is not home ( he works nights every 2 weeks). The other night it all seemed to come to a head when my boyfriend left for work at 5am. I went back to sleep after he had gone, must have been for about 5 minutes when I woke up again, this time I knew something evil was coming and suddenly realised I could not move, the next thing I knew something was crouched down by my side, it proceded to bite into my neck, which did not so much hurt but felt like a "tight" feeling. This went on for about 3-5 minutes then I could move again, so I lay there, completly freaked for about for like 20 minutes, got up to look for some whiskey, which I did not have :( then went back to sleep (with all the lights on of course). My neck hurt in exactly the same spot the next day, with the same eerie tight feeling :/

Just to let you know, I had not been drinking or taking ANYTHING this night.



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20 Nov 2007, 5:37 pm

I have either a nightmare or a very complex and upsetting dream nearly every night.



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20 Nov 2007, 5:45 pm

The whole thing is making me feel really crap, I can't really sleep through the night anymore, I have even found myself sleeping in the daytime etc. Plus it does not help my depression one little bit not sleeping



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20 Nov 2007, 5:52 pm

It sound like sleep paralysis. I get this all of the time. It is a state halfway between consciousness and unconsciousness in which you are aware of your surroundings; but paralysed and able to see, hear and feel products of your own imagination around you, as though in a dream.

I used to feel as though small children were climbing on me as I lay in bed. I once saw a ghost-girl in my bedroom, and felt her drift in and out of my throat like a strong breeze as she whispered "come to me". More recently, I have felt giant caterpillars crawl on me as I lie in bed; and yesterday, my Alien Queen model came to life, leapt down off my shelf and clawed at my face.

It can be quite unsettling, but it is completely innocuous. Medication could possibly help with this, although I'm not sure.


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20 Nov 2007, 5:58 pm

Yeah I've heard about this, but it does not really explain the whole "thing in the room" stuff I don't think. These "entities" so often make direct attempts to contact us, interact with us ect.



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20 Nov 2007, 6:07 pm

The experiences I had felt very real, too, so I still think you could just be dreaming. You'd be amazed what bizarre things the brain can concoct in a semi-conscious state.

I'm sure there is a rational explanation for the neck stiffness as well. It could just be psychosomatic.


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20 Nov 2007, 6:11 pm

No, sleep paralysis perfectly describes a panic attack while asleep or in the hypnogogic state.
If you are a woman, you might track the dates this happens to you. Before menopause, I would have a death dream exactly ten days before each period. I later learned the death dream was a panic attack. I took medication for it for a while, but later decided I would rather live with the once a month death dream than take so much medication. So I stopped taking the imiprimine and did not sleep for three days straight! I did not know I could do that.
What you have to remember is that while your body is afraid, your mind does not need to be. If you wake up from a nasty dream or paralysis, read something diverting until your heart rate slows down enough for you to go back to sleep.



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20 Nov 2007, 8:07 pm

Most of it is pretty random, although they get worse in the run up to my period....



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20 Nov 2007, 8:11 pm

It's almost certinaly sleep paralysis, as other have said. I've had dozens of such episodes, and it's not uncommon for me to sense, or even see, something sinister in the room. I've had a black dog standing over me, an enormous mosquito in the corner of my room, and various shadowy figures just out of sight. I've heard weird noises, felt someone tugging on me, felt something walking on the bed, and floated around the room. All kinds of craziness can happen.

It used to freak me out, but nowadays I know that it's just a hallucination, particularly because I cannot move. I just lie there and let it happen.



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20 Nov 2007, 8:47 pm

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Hey, been a while since I posted, but I wander if anyone can relate. I've always had issues with sleeping, since childhood really, but they were always issues with staying in bed, going to bed and sleeping through the night, but lately it has turned into something far worse, horrid random nightmares, which do not relate to any event or time in my life, they are completely unreal, often involving ghosts, aliens or anything along these lines, I doubt it comes from scary films, as these have never really gotten to me and I try not to watch them late at night too, they seem to be getting worse by the week, to the point where they are starting to bend my perception of reality and interfere with my daily life.

Try to think what ghosts and murder mean to you, and trace that definition back to your everday, conscious life.



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20 Nov 2007, 10:25 pm

I got black holes sometimes at night... not fun. Sometimes I can't even sleep and sometimes I can talk myself into sleeping... other times I try, but can't try hard enough, it's hard to explain, the black hole then swallows a piece of me. Scary and depressing. I rarely lose control any more tho thanks to the Celexa. :) It only happens like once a month now as opposed to once every day or every few hours.



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20 Nov 2007, 10:28 pm

Yes, clearly it is sleep paralysis, sleep paralysis being the label for the symptoms described. But that we have a name for a grouping of symptoms does not explain the cause of them. So I personally would not say, oh it's "just" sleep paralysis.

My apologies to skeptics here, I don't expect anyone to believe this, but for the record I believe there is a good possiblity that sleep paralysis can be caused by spirits, and they do take on different forms, including things like aliens or ghosts. Here is why I think it is caused by real entities: I believe that the spiritual world exists. Now if it does exist, that doesn't mean that anything we don't understand is caused by them--however, if something fits the criteria, then based on a prior assumption of their existence, there may be reason to believe that in some cases they are involved.

The fact that people have common symptoms does not automatically mean it is caused by common physical states in the body; it can just as easily mean that spirits act in a common way to people.

You mentioned that what concerns you and can't be explained is not the weird feelings or anything but the feeling of an entity in the room. Assuming entities other than physical humans exist, why should it not be? That another presence is felt in the room is in my opinion a sign that it is more than dreaming.

I have had sleep paralysis before, and it is terrifying. Some may call my opinion dangerous for making people look to superstition rather than seeking the medical attention or therapy they need, but I believe every venue should be explored; this includes medication and therapy and whatever else a doctor might reccomend, but if all possiblities ought to be explored, it is actually rather MORE dangerous not to examine it from a spiritual perspective, and at least attempt to deal with it in that way.

Think of it like this: even if these demons and entities are all just psychological projections or what not, they are taking the form of spirits or demons. Therefore, it would make sense to deal with them in that manner, since if spiritual imagery can result from psychological projections, why not counter them with opposing psychological projections? I say this believing it is much more than just that, but I would say that if you are a skeptic and that's the best you can do, try it. Dealing it spiritually can mean talking to a pastor, through prayer, or other ways.



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21 Nov 2007, 6:42 pm

Well, We all have nightmares. In various states of degrees.

I myself can wake up in the midst of a night soaked in sweat, and not knowing what's wrong, just a sudden feeling that something is VERY wrong. But it isn't.

I have a tendency to worry a lot about everybody except myself so I dream nightmares about my children, AND their friends. And their parents. It's quite annoying.

Today my parents came visiting me because I didn't answer on the phone. I just had a day "off hook" and didn't want to talk to anybody except my ex. I always answer her calls. Since I have a history of suicidical behaviour they jumped into red alert. They have failed to notice the hint that with three kids you don't kill yorself that easily. I had the first good sleep for about a week when my dad woke me up. My first thought was that my mother had died, then I saw my mother behind.

It's a weirdo summon of nightmares.



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21 Nov 2007, 7:02 pm

All my married life until seven years ago I would have occasional nightmares about my husband doing something careless while I am warning him and he is ignoring me and then he does something like cut off his hands on a table saw. Seven years ago he fell off the roof 20 feet onto concrete and smashed his feet and lower legs to bits. I've never had that nightmare since.
Ha, reminds me of the house we rented briefly where every morning I got up thinking this house is going to burn down, and went to bed every night thinking this house is going to burn down. We got our chance to move onbase, and did, and the next week the house burned down.