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20 Jan 2008, 3:56 pm

Our cat Squeek has been depressed since she was born about 2 yeard ago. She would never shut up, always bitterly complaining about something, and has this sad look in her eyes, and doesn't recoil from people touching her stomach like most cats do; she likes the attention; anything for attention; she's really lonely and sad. She was a neglctful mother to her three litters of kittens... the first one consisted of one kitten, who died, the second one consisted of two and one died, the third consisted of two and once again one died. I really don't think she got much attention. She attempted suicide twice I think, once by trying to jimp out the van window onto a road full of speeding vehicles. She always wanted to go out, was a smartass balancing on the third-floor balcony railing and falling out of trees trying to walk out as far as she ould get on a branch, she needed attention and/or stimulation. She and her brother Punk are in-bred cats, I think. We got Kitty from my mom's workplace, she had Thomas with a black cat, she had Charity with a white cat with spots, Charity and Thomas are Squeek's parents, But Punk seems happy, he's a typical tomcat, happy but still looking for stimulation. Right now she lives in my dad's van with Punk and her two kittens, one whom she had with Punk. In his van, in the secure parking lot of his workplace. He visits them regularly to check up on them and give them water, food, new litter, and a bit of attention. I wish there was something I could do for Squeek. I want to get on with my life but I also want to help her and give her love and attention. I'm tempted to spike her water with something.



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20 Jan 2008, 4:24 pm

Are you serious? you'd actually consider poisoning your cat? You haven't said anything here that sounds like a depressed cat. All cats have different personalities, let me go through your post and say what I think and seriously, you should chant this like a mantra 'do not kill the cat!! !!'

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She would never shut up, always bitterly complaining about something


My cat is very vocal too, he often sounds like he wants something, some cats just do this more than others, give her a cuddle, play with her or something

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has this sad look in her eyes

Mine too, it's just his face, he has sad looking eyes, doesn't mean he's sad

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doesn't recoil from people touching her stomach like most cats do

many cats (including mine) love belly rubs

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she likes the attention; anything for attention

Cats like attention, nothing unusual here. Give her some attention

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she's really lonely and sad. She was a neglctful mother to her three litters of kittens... the first one consisted of one kitten, who died, the second one consisted of two and one died, the third consisted of two and once again one died

Have her spayed, it's the kindest thing for cats. Saves unwanted kittens and medical problems for your cat
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She attempted suicide twice I think, once by trying to jimp out the van window onto a road full of speeding vehicles. She always wanted to go out, was a smartass balancing on the third-floor balcony railing and falling out of trees trying to walk out as far as she ould get on a branch, she needed attention and/or stimulation.

Cats DO NOT attempt suicide. Cats are daredevils, often getting into sticky and dangerous situations but this is not a mental illness. You ever heard the saying 'Curiosity killed the cat'? Well that's why.
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I wish there was something I could do for Squeek. I want to get on with my life but I also want to help her and give her love and attention. I'm tempted to spike her water with something.


There is something you can do, you can either take care of her and give her lots of love or find her a new home where she'll get this. Maybe you're just not suited to having a cat. To say that the other cat is happy and 'typical' cat is ignoring that cats, like humans, have different personalities. Some need more attention than others but remember, they are CATS, not humans. They don't try to commit suicide, their drive is to survive! Get your head round the differences between cats and people and you might be off to a good start.



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20 Jan 2008, 4:50 pm

Anna:

Squeek is a cat. Cats do not get depressed. Cats are depressed only when they are hungry. Try picking your cat up, putting it on your lab, and rubbing between the ears very gently, like a licking motion. The purring will tell you when you've got the right spot.

Cats are philosophers. Trouble is, they do not deem humans worthy of discussing this philosophy. Stop worrying about your cat. As long as she's eating, drinking, and licking her paws so she can wash her face, she's fine.

Cats do not like moving cars. Keep them out of moving cars.

Cats walk along narrow fence rails and the peaks of roofs, it's what they do to prove to their human slaves that they are inherently better than humans. It is not something to worry about.

Cats do not commit suicide. They are murderers, but you don't have much to worry about unless you're about a 4 inch long rodent. Then, I would tread very cautiously around a cat.


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20 Jan 2008, 5:15 pm

Ps1r3n, I am pretty sure that Ana meant she should spike the cat's water with some kind of medication.

One thing that humans have never really come to terms with is the fact that cats breed then let Nature sort them out. A lot more cats survive to adulthood under human care and it's a mixed blessing. You get the ones who have more problems and who would normally have died before reaching reproductive age.



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20 Jan 2008, 5:59 pm

Cats do get depression,it is recognised by vets.
Cats in fact can get many traditional human conditions such as OCD and diabetes.

Ana54,
it doesn't sound like cat depression,but some Flower Essences could help-
http://www.rainbowcrystal.com/bach/floweran.html
Scroll down to "Remedies for Common Conditions in Animals" on above page/link,it says what essences to use for what problems, am do not understand Squeaks problems exactly so can't mention any specific ones.
Can get these essences from health food stores and they are put into the cats water.
They are good for humans as well as cats so both can use them.
Am have always thought of getting Bach' rescue remedy as part of building a cat first aid box for the cats at family home but keep forgetting to even start it off with a box.


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20 Jan 2008, 6:07 pm

A cat letting you touch their stomach means the cat trusts you.

You'll have a harder time finding a cat who won't do anything for attention than one who will

Your cat was not attempting suicide by jumping out of the van window. Its a common reaction for a cat who is either A) afraid of the car ride (particularly if car rides always mean something bad like a trip to the vet for a shot) or B) saw something inersting out of the window she wanted to chase like a bird. Now was she attempting suicide by engaging in the very normal catlike behavior of climbing trees, or sitting on high railings. You'll find barn cats crawling all over the roofs of barns and tractor sheds, precociously close the edge. They don't fall, they don't die. They like being up high and thats what their doing. Once I thought my sisters cat was stuck on top of the tractor shed. I couldn't get him down so I finally walked away to get help - though he was about two stories up, he jumped down and followed me

A cat who never shuts up is one who was talked to quite a bit as a kitten. A quiet cat is one who wasn't. There are a few exceptions of course. My cat doesn't talk to me, but can't walk past a toy without meowing to it.

By your own description, cat is acting like a normal healthy cat If you have even once seriously considered poisioning the cat than you need to go see a psychologist IMMEDIATELY. Its not normal for people to think that way, and especially not when the cat is in perfect health and exhibiting perfectly normal cat behaviors.



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20 Jan 2008, 6:20 pm

I meant giving her antidepressants or stimulants, not POISONING her! You guys have sick minds!


From the dsay she was born she was very vocal and bitter, though she has been happy. :)



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20 Jan 2008, 6:44 pm

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I meant giving her antidepressants or stimulants, not POISONING her! You guys have sick minds!

The word 'spiking' suggests something bad, and the way you were talking about just wanting to get on with your life sounded like you meant without the cat. I'm sorry if i misunderstood but the way you wrote it sounded like you meant to poison the cat. I don't have a sick mind, I worry about animals that can't speak for themselves and hate cruelty to animals. Your post seriously worried me.


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From the dsay she was born she was very vocal and bitter, though she has been happy. :)

Bitter? Again you worry me that you're applying emotions to this cat that don't exist. How does a cat appear bitter? take the cat to the vet if you're concerned, DO NOT give it any medications unless the vet tells you to.



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20 Jan 2008, 7:12 pm

your cat is not depressed or suicial -- just not very bright



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21 Jan 2008, 3:20 am

KingdomOfRats wrote:
Cats do get depression,it is recognised by vets.
Cats in fact can get many traditional human conditions such as OCD and diabetes.


Yes, this is true. Also true for dogs.


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