Aspergers: A dash of autism
I don't have merely a "dash" of autism, as Aspergers is described here. My onset was immediate from infancy and the language delay persisted into adulthood which I still have challenges with.
Maybe this is a big part of why I don't really fit in here, because I'm not as high-functioning as many here are. There is also a lot of negativity being directed at folks who have been deemed by some as "self-diganosed". I have an unofficial diagnosis of Early Infantile Autism but there's no category as such. No one should be made to feel that their own personal sense of what they are dealing with is insufficient for them to know the difference. Because there are cases of misdiagnosis, a diagnosis alone also isn't enough when it comes to proving who is and who isn't.
http://www.autism-society.org/site/Page ... _aspergers
I can't honestly deal anymore with the hostility I have experienced here. Giving it back wasn't good, but taking it silently isn't good either. I don't understand why the atmosphere here is what it is.
Why do people want to degrade others who are disabled and insinuate their disability isn't justified and they are leaching off the system when the system has determined their eligibility? What gives those people the right to make that kind of judgement or insinuation? There is so much hostility but when I respond and finally even react to it, I am deemed the perpetrator of the behavior instead of the one who initiated it. If I went to Moderators every time this happened, Moderators would soon tire of me and tell me it was my fault probably anyway.
I 'am' disabled. I have enough shame about that without people who wish to contribute to this philosophy. If I can't say anything about myself without experiencing scorn, mockery or ridicule, then the oppressor has succeeded once again in silencing me. My mother needed to do this to me also, even though I was barely able to utter a word. Being autistic makes one the perfect victim. I have attempted to stand up for myself here, which I'm barely able to do in real life. My effort has been stoic and I did my best in my own defense, even though I should have never been attacked or had to stand in my defense here about anything. People coming at you right and left attempting to debunk a lifetime of horror called autism which I myself have already lived. It's so much fun for some, I can see that. I don't find it entertaining at all.
I don't want to talk to anyone anymore. I don't want anyone to talk to me here. If I make threads, don't read. I don't want you to read. I'm only here so I can have some sense of not being completely alone. Having people constantly in my face about something is a nightmare I would rather do without.
Don't read my posts or my threads!
Thank you!
I am addressing everybody here, myself included. WP is a ''resource and community for Autism and Asperger's''. It should be a place for all of us, regardless of extent of disability- or if we see ourselves as disabled at all- regardless of diagnosis or lack thereof, to feel at home. A home should be a safe place. Some of us have unfortunately not been safe in our homes- these people especially need this space, this community, to be a safe home.
If anyone feels the need to put others down, there is a whole world outside to do that in. Go ahead, most people seem to enjoy that kind of sport. Or maybe start a discussion forum dedicated to venting negative feelings- ''The Vomitorium''? Most of us need to vomit from time to time!
But if someone comes here in a vulnerable state, looking for reassurance or just companionship, please, either have something positive to say or keep quiet.
Thank you all for listening- Peace.
Hi there,
'Either have something positive to say or keep quiet', those words my father use to say once in a while. Wise man he was.
I totally agree with the posts above. We should try to lift each other up and not bringing each other down.
Best of luck,
C
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I 'am' disabled. I have enough shame about that without people who wish to contribute to this philosophy. If I can't say anything about myself without experiencing scorn, mockery or ridicule, then the oppressor has succeeded once again in silencing me. My mother needed to do this to me also, even though I was barely able to utter a word. Being autistic makes one the perfect victim. I have attempted to stand up for myself here, which I'm barely able to do in real life. My effort has been stoic and I did my best in my own defense, even though I should have never been attacked or had to stand in my defense here about anything. People coming at you right and left attempting to debunk a lifetime of horror called autism which I myself have already lived. It's so much fun for some, I can see that. I don't find it entertaining at all.
I don't want to talk to anyone anymore. I don't want anyone to talk to me here. If I make threads, don't read. I don't want you to read. I'm only here so I can have some sense of not being completely alone. Having people constantly in my face about something is a nightmare I would rather do without.
Don't read my posts or my threads!
Thank you!
If you do not want people to read your posts or threads, why post?
I am sure there are lot of compulsive readers here and they wouldn't be able to help but read them.
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I am sure there are lot of compulsive readers here and they wouldn't be able to help but read them.
SG, the reason was explained in the post. Please remember this is the Haven, for supportive comments and responses.
M.
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My thanks to all the wonderful members here; I will miss the opportunity to continue to learn and work with you.
For those who seek an alternative, it is coming.
So long, and thanks for all the fish!
Aspieartist,
If you are the person I think you are (one of the one's who Mark said was within a heartbeat of being banned) the problem had nothing to do with your disability or not fitting in. The problem was continuing a fight after MrMark (a moderator here) gave a warning that it needed to stop. once a mod steps in with that warning the fight is over and isn't allowed to continue, even if you feel you didn't get a chance to articulate your position or step up and defend yourself. Continuing after a mod warning for any reason will get you banned, not just on this site but on others as well. Even if the warning wasn't directed at you (and I'm not sure it was) there had already been a warning that no personal attacks were allowed in that thread and what you were writing after that warning were personal attacks.
Its hard, I know. But try to keep in mind the source. There are people here who love to say anything they can if they think it will upset you and nothing you say to them will get them to stop because they get the most joy out of upsetting.
There is a girl who trolls the haven for this very reason. Don't take it personally if she comes in here. She attacks haven posters than claims she should be forgiven because she says "sorry I feel like I have a right too" when confronted about her behavior. She does this every month and all for no reason other than she likes to get the posters who are at their wits end entirely frazzled. Its possible the poster who upset you the other day is the same way - at any rate he certainly likes making topics that he knows will cause trouble
A good thing to keep in mind is not every poster honestly believes what they claim to and internet forums attract people who love pushing others buttons behind the cloak of anonymity
You did good to post this in here. Next time someone pushes your buttons like proto did, don't respond to it. Instead make a post here and rant your anger out. But keep in mind about that troll I mentioned- she has several accounts and if someone here is attacking you, even if it appears to be two or thee people, chances are its just her trying to cause you pain. So don't take it hard if someone, particularly a newbie or someone with less than 30 posts begins criticising you in the haven. They are just bullies who enjoy hurting others
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Aspieartist, this should be good news for you (if you will believe it); sometimes what you think is an attack on you, is quite simply nothing of the sort.
I am really confused about your interpretation of the thread you refer to.
It's seems largely supportive of your point of view/circumstances and a number of posters singled you out for positive interaction.
The thread has been closed, and I do not want to instigate problems by making public remarks about conduct in a closed thread that individually identifies posters, but I will say that at least once you seemed certain someone was attacking you when they were not. If it would help you to discuss this, I'm happy for you to PM me about that.
I do not disagree that there was an element of negativity towards people in your position, but my interpretation is that this was a minority (ie one person), largely disagreed with by the vocal majority, and also that criticism intended for that minority of one may have been interpreted by you as being aimed at you, when in fact it was aimed at the point of view/statements/conduct of the person who seemed to me to be disrespecting those in your circumstance.
I personally disagree with the point of view expressed by the poster who seemed (to me) to denigrate those in your position (and who seemed to me to be impolite to you personally) and am in favour of assistance for people who are disadvantaged through disability. I felt that the majority view in the thread was fairly consistent with my own so I'm somewhat taken aback by your apparently different interpretation. ![]()
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Lioness,
this fight was over when the thread was locked. There is no excuse to come to the haven to continue it
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