Autoracism...
Crion87
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No, no, no, I don't mean thinking one make of car is superior to another because of origin or label, I mean...
Auto- = Greek prefix, "self"
Racism = 1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others. 2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.
In essence, I am racist toward my own race. However, I am not prejudiced against white people in general, I hate white Australians. And I am a white Australian.
Crazy, isn't it.
I'm trying to nut down the root cause so that I can put a stop to it or at least curb it, as it is very troublesome with my personal relationships, as well as my relationship with my parents (there could also be other issues there too).
Autoracism? AUTORACISM!
Well, the way you become unprejudiced is one individual at a time. Of course, the first step is recognizing that you are prejudiced, so you're off to a good start.
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Yeah its crazy but I understand it. When I was young I had black friends. A black
boy (we were about 7) called my house and my father answer phone told him to never
call again and I was not to talk to him. He never called again but I never stopped
making friends with blacks. Even in college I had black friends from africa as friends.
One time in 5th grade (I would be 11) the teacher asked each student who do you
admire the most. The kids said things like ballplayers, parents, leaders, I named a
black boy that was in the very same class(my teacher was a black women to, the first
to teach white kids in our area) the class laughed but it was true. He could run fast
and he out ran the fastest white boy oneday I was so happy. Yeah your crazy but
the world is even crazier.
Well if it makes you feel any better, I am autosexist. Or at least, I was at one point and I'm fairly sure I'm not anymore. See, I used to really hate males when I was younger. Older males scared the s*** out of me and even younger males and those of my own age intimidated me. The only people I looked to for friends were girls.
Of course, since I am a male myself that put me in quite a predicament. I used to tell everyone I was a girl and a lesbian (this was in primary school) which to my utter surprise caused me to be further bullied.
I can't remember if I really believed that though, it was so long ago.
Also, I hated all the sorts of activities boys did, like sports (which I believe I didn't like in the first place anyway), and did many things that the girls did, which at the time included hand-clapping games, skipping games, dancing and singing. Though my fear and dislike of males has gone since then, this tendency for me to stick to things that females do has stuck - these days I still like to dance and my choice of study is to become a nurse even though I could be 'making more of myself'.
I am fairly sure of the cause of all this. When I was young I was bullied a lot. And most of the bullies were male. No, actually I think they were all male. Females just don't bully people, in my experience. Additionally, the only support I received in my youth was from my mother, and later on my counseller, who was female. (I also had a male counseller but I ended up throwing a chair at him...) It's not that Dad wasn't doing his best, he was just always at work and he didn't really see much of me. So I pretty much built up this skewed perception from my experiences when I was young, and still learning about the world. Looking back I think it's pretty darn logical I turned out the way I did.
If you think about your own past experiences I think you'll be able to figure out why you are the way you are today. Because if you hate white Australians and you are one yourself, there must be a damn good reason for it. Were you bullied a lot by white people in your youth? Or befriended by people of another colour? These are the only things I can think of that may have happened to you, but perhaps you can think of something.
Crion87
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I wasn't exactly bullied by all whites in general, but the predominant bullies whom bullied me to the extent that they did were all your "typical Aussie" sports-jock characters and their mates. I have always been more intellectual than my Aussie peers, whom referred me mainly with derogative references to homosexuality (you know the ones) though I was, and am, heterosexual. At one stage, there was a fair bit of sexual assault happening to me involving random school objects and my rear end, and the perps were Australian youths. To add to thus, the Australian females rejected me every chance they got - and most other females for that matter.
Interesting you say that, for how you say you saw females, I tend to see most Dutch people. I was befriended by mostly Europeans, a good part of whom are Dutch. In my experiences, Dutch people are more willing to accept one if they are more intellectual - of course, that depends on which Dutch people you are talking about, but I always got along with the Dutch more than other races, including Australians - although I get along with Chinese or Taiwanese people.
Of course, since I am a male myself that put me in quite a predicament. I used to tell everyone I was a girl and a lesbian (this was in primary school) which to my utter surprise caused me to be further bullied.
Also, I hated all the sorts of activities boys did, like sports (which I believe I didn't like in the first place anyway), and did many things that the girls did, which at the time included hand-clapping games, skipping games, dancing and singing. Though my fear and dislike of males has gone since then, this tendency for me to stick to things that females do has stuck - these days I still like to dance and my choice of study is to become a nurse even though I could be 'making more of myself'.
I am fairly sure of the cause of all this. When I was young I was bullied a lot. And most of the bullies were male. No, actually I think they were all male. Females just don't bully people, in my experience. Additionally, the only support I received in my youth was from my mother, and later on my counseller, who was female. (I also had a male counseller but I ended up throwing a chair at him...) It's not that Dad wasn't doing his best, he was just always at work and he didn't really see much of me. So I pretty much built up this skewed perception from my experiences when I was young, and still learning about the world. Looking back I think it's pretty darn logical I turned out the way I did.
If you think about your own past experiences I think you'll be able to figure out why you are the way you are today. Because if you hate white Australians and you are one yourself, there must be a damn good reason for it. Were you bullied a lot by white people in your youth? Or befriended by people of another colour? These are the only things I can think of that may have happened to you, but perhaps you can think of something.
Engimatic_oddity, I thank you again for helping me out on the 'Does this mean I'm racist?' thread while I was in Devon. I feel strangely compelled, here, to say, that you from my expericence, you can't pinpoint it to one particular 'class' of people, for lack of a better word. What I got particulary annoyed with was the way the system needed to deal with certain 'classes', again for lack of a better word. Next time, they accuse me of not understanding what it's like to be a minority, I'm going to tell them that I'm a **** sight smaller minority than they are. (female diagnosed aspie.)
Best advice I can give you, don't make generalisations of any kind. Every person you meet is an individual. You start making generalisations and you're taking the easy way out, the way that requires less brainpower and is almost always unfair to the group you're judging. Statistics MUST DIE.
I disagree. Generalisations are useful to an extent, for the reasons that you mention: it provides a frame of reference with which we can evaluate people quickly and with relatively less effort than if we didn't generalise. Generalising becomes a problem when it is the only measure by which we evaluate others. In other words, it can't be allowed to replace good ol' thinking.
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Damn. I thought this thread might have something to do with getting pulled over for drink-driving in Malibu.
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The white man has kept me down all my life. Then again, so has everyone else. For example, the other day, I went to buy some soda in the store, and the clerk looked at me and my ivory skin and denied me service! Oh, sure, she disguised her autoracism by saying that I needed "money" to "pay" for the soda, but I know she is just a no-good autoracist.
Next time, ask her how much, if you get that far. If not, give her an evil-yet-woe-betide-me look, walk out of the store, head hung, and eyes downcast, and either mutter something about
a) discrimantion laws only applying to certain types of people meaning that they are in fact, discrimanatory.
OR (works best if you're old enough to have one child.)
b)Make some comment about your numerous children.
If they claim that you're only old enough to have one child, turn around sadly, look at them and inform them coldly 'It was a mutiple birth'.
((DISCLAIMER: I take no responsibiltiy for anything coming to you as a result of this.))
((If you do attempt it, good luck!))
I have finally figured out that my autoracism is connected to the way whites treated the American native peoples, mostly. One of my earlier obsessions was involving all things Indian and I am still ashamed to be white at times.
If I keep looking around I can find plenty more groups of people to empathize with, but in the end there is nothing we can do to change history. Most of the ones who perpetrated this evil on 'The Holy People of Earth' are DEAD now and that gives me comfort. I still don't like the image on the $20 bill, though. Maybe they could use a Model "T" or something more American than the image of one of the most depraved men in US history.
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If they claim that you're only old enough to have one child, turn around sadly, look at them and inform them coldly 'It was a mutiple birth'.
((DISCLAIMER: I take no responsibiltiy for anything coming to you as a result of this.))
((If you do attempt it, good luck!))
Good point. My 250 children need that soda, but everywhere I go, people tell me I need "money" to "pay" for stuff like soda, food, and clothes. The world is made of nothing but autoracists.
If they claim that you're only old enough to have one child, turn around sadly, look at them and inform them coldly 'It was a mutiple birth'.
((DISCLAIMER: I take no responsibiltiy for anything coming to you as a result of this.))
((If you do attempt it, good luck!))
Good point. My 250 children need that soda, but everywhere I go, people tell me I need "money" to "pay" for stuff like soda, food, and clothes. The world is made of nothing but autoracists.
((Hey! You're only old enough to have one child.
Okay, now we need to think of some plausible excuse by which, we can use the term "need" rather than "want", in case you're challenged. I suggest we make up an extremly rare medical condition and claim this.
Random person/guinea pig: That doesn't exist! I've never heard of it!
Me: I said it was extremly rare. :launches into a long momolougue of a numerous citation.:
RP/GP: *stares at me in disbelief.*
Well, 173 of my children have Itsybitsyteenyweenyyellowpolkadotbikinitis. It is a very nasty disease, first documented by Dr. Irving Itsybitsyteenyweenyyellowpolkadotbikini in 1911. Its symptoms include extreme shyness on the beach and an inexplicable love for the musical catalogue of Brian Hyland. Only soda can keep the symptoms in check.
