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27 May 2009, 6:44 am

Two of the voices I'm hearing are,

"The reason for that is because you're a loser, Assburgerboy."
"Face it, you're a psychopath."

This sounds rough, doesn't it? I'm doing my best to overcome them.


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27 May 2009, 7:34 am

Hi, MikeH. I'm sorry about those voices- it must be very upsetting to hear things like that. I'm sure you're not a psychopath OR a loser. How do you overcome the voices? Do you have ways of distracting yourself or blocking them out? Jenny



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27 May 2009, 8:22 am

In "A Beautiful Mind," the main character stands up to the voices by yelling, "No! Go away," and it actually works.


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27 May 2009, 5:33 pm

Thank you all so much for showing sympathy on this issue. I'm worried that everyone will become scared of me and leave me in isolation, making it worse.

As funny as it sounds, I just keep winning arguments with the voices. One of them will say, "You're a psychopath." Then I will snap back in my mind and say:

"There are two definitions of that word. One of them is relatively mild and could apply to as much as one tenth of the population. While it is more prevalent in the weaker sense, it is used far more often in the stronger sense. This allows anyone to just use the word to stigmatize someone they hate."

I keep going on and on in my mind about 'the stupid people.' "The stupid people might think..." "A stupid person might try to..." "An idiot could..." I just keep running in circles around these voices, winning every argument, coming to every conclusion, and... oh, maybe they're punishing me for something. After ten years of long study, they're punishing me. How convenient. What a waste of study time, if that continues to be the case.

I think that five years of suffering is beyond appropriate for taking a few measly pictures of strangers and spending a few hundred dollars on drugs.

A lot of these voices sound very deluded and desperate. "I'm Jesus Christ! I'm Jesus Christ!" one of them might shout. Another might make a love-related comment about a specific girl. This is nothing I'd say. I'm smarter than that.

Above all, I just keep hearing brown. Brown, brown, brown. It makes me think of everything wrong in our culture, of all the intolerance, prejudice, and delusions we face. And they keep saying, "I hate Charlie Brown." What did I do, watch the Charlie Brown show a few too many times? Was it that 'failure' song? I did think those kids were awfully mean to Charlie Brown, but they don't have to take it out on me while I'm helping people with their math homework.

There's got to be a way to get through to these voices that I'm trying to solve problems for them. And I can't concentrate on solving these problems with their distracting insults.

I don't care if it was because I smoked weed or what, no entity in the world should be doing this!


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27 May 2009, 5:39 pm

if you dont want meds go to someone that teaches zen. meditation helps quiet voices.



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27 May 2009, 6:37 pm

Hi again, MikeH. I certainly hope people don't make you feel isolated because of the voices- they're not your fault.

Please don't see the voices as "punishment" for anything you've done- they're not. They're a medical symptom, not a moral one. They're a result of signals misfiring in your brain. That doesn't mean they don't feel real, though.

Have you spoken to your doctor about the voices? I have a relative whose voices are well controlled by medication. He's certainly a lot happier without voices insulting and tormenting him all the time. Jenny



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28 May 2009, 5:45 am

I've decided that I will not take dopamine blockers.


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28 May 2009, 5:52 am

Voices are sooo annoying. They try to scare you, and have very little with reality.



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28 May 2009, 8:11 am

Why don't you want to take medication? Are you worried about the side-effects?



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28 May 2009, 3:06 pm

Dopamine is sometimes called the 'pleasure chemical.' It allows us to get up, function throughout the day, and enjoy our work.

Antipsychotics work by blocking the dopamine neurotransmitter, preventing it from being used to signal neurons. This could explain why they make you so tired and bored, why you lose your sex drive, and why they made me so unhappy while I was on them.

Having a girlfriend, by contrast, boosts your dopamine levels. It makes you less tired and bored and increases your sex drive. Besides, psychiatrists lied about me, and I don't take kindly to that.


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28 May 2009, 7:24 pm

"Hearing voices" is something I've never really understood and always been fascinated by. It's awesome that you can "argue" with the voices and "win"--and since you seem to at least somewhat have a handle on these things, and you clearly like to intellectualize what's going on here, I have a question for you. You don't have to answer it if it bothers you. And if it does bother you that I ask this, I apologize in advance, but it's something I've always wondered.

What do the voices sound like? (Are they distinctly male/female? Are they all the same? Can you identify them as the same or similar to people you know?).

I guess that's not "a" question, that's a small pile of questions. But any insight would be appreciated.



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28 May 2009, 8:21 pm

Hi again, MikeH. I'm sorry that the anti-psychotics made you feel unhappy. Have you decided that the voices are less disruptive to your life than the medication was?

In what way did the psychiatrists lie about you? Jenny



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28 May 2009, 8:34 pm

My life is better now that I'm off them, that's for sure.


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28 May 2009, 8:51 pm

I'm glad your life is better. Are you able to do the things you want to do, or do the voices make it difficult? You seem to see the voices as a punishment, so they are obviously causing you some problems. Are you still under the care of a psychiatrist?



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29 May 2009, 3:18 am

Hello. I am glad you have opted to fight them. I have heard some, only over the past three or so years. I definitely recommend meditation, it does wonders to quiet these. I have always talked to myself, in varying voices. These voices are not me, I am sure. I do this exact thing. They don't say anything I'd say, so I argue at them. I lie in bed trying to sleep and it sounds like they come through the vent, sometimes, but they can be in any direction. Screw how most people think, because they so desperately want to be like everybody else to fit in to this screwed up society. Voices just seem like another quirk of life, outside my brain or not, that I have to deal with. These things are not understood by the medical personnel. They have placed people in a box and if you don't behave in what they consider normal, then there has to be something wrong with you. Pill, anyone? Let's feed their insatiable thirst for the root of all evils - money.

Check this out. Because the FDA really approves things that will help you… like aspartame… in everything. Most stores don't sell non-sugar-free gum anymore. Why this obsession? Oh - that's right. Sugared gum will give you nasty cavities, so you should brush after meals and drinking and breathing and use as much toothpaste as you please but lord help you if you swallow even a pea-sized amount! You can't get it all out of your mouth when you brush. You're going to ingest some. It builds up in your pineal gland, calcifying it. Pineal creates melatonin, which affects the modulation of wake/sleep patterns and seasonal functions. It is said to be the third eye. It produces DMT -- the stuff of dreams. Shaped like a pine cone. It looks to be somewhat essential, being on both sides of the brain, and in the position it is in. Brains evolved inside out, you say? Begone, science! But do drink that glass of water with the exact same amount of poison in it. And since alcohol dries your mouth out, but you must have acceptable breath, use this toxic industrial waste laced mouthwash! :roll: Why do this? They'd go out of business if we didn't keep consuming!

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