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mikebw
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03 Jan 2008, 4:41 pm

The constitution doesn't give me my rights, it only recognizes them. Our current government steps all over our rights.

Those patriots who died for our freedom would slap the piss outta us for allowing our government to steal so many of them. They would call for a revolution.



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03 Jan 2008, 5:01 pm

Used to mean something.

Now it means s**t.

We suck and we are SPIRALING out of control and nobody cares or is doing anything.

Great now I'm pissed :evil:



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03 Jan 2008, 5:31 pm

it would be good but georgie decided to go to war. woohoo lets kill for oil!!



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04 Jan 2008, 12:53 am

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It's home. I love the country, that is to say the land. It's a beautiful country. My family is here and has been for many generations. I would fight to defend my family and home.

PS - I would be sorely tempted to partake in the revolution.

I agree, I love the land. I love the American Revolution and the ideas it represented. I'd fight for my rights and my family but not for today's government. While I appreciate this country's history, I think it's all going downhill.

Plus I think we're a quick-fix nation, and we're too pop-culture obsessed. And why do we have to drive from one end of an outdoor shopping center to the other? Why can't we walk for more than two minutes? That's the kind of thing that bothers me about America. Our ancestors worked their asses off to make a home here, but now it seems we've gotten physically and psychologically lazy. Although we do put in more hours at the office than others countries, if I remember correctly...

Anyway, thanks for responding, everybody. Our thread is so much better than the Australians', haha. :wink:



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04 Jan 2008, 1:09 am

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we're too pop-culture obsessed.


Um, yeah.



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04 Jan 2008, 11:46 am

America is the only country whose sons have left footprints upon the dust of the Moon. And returned safely home again. Western civilization is going to the stars, and the people of the United States will lead the way.

That is, those few who still have the vision to see beyond the junk pop culture craze, which is a global phenomenon much more so than something limited to Americans. Bread and circuses. Our technical prowess is supreme; however, we could use a few more inspirational leaders and visionaries to pull our minds out of the gutter and focus our eyes on the stars.

America, in spite of all her faults, is the last stronghold of Western civilization, where the spark of freedom still burns in men's hearts, where people still understand that the government is an entity that is to be hated rather than loved; that one should have the self-respect to find his own way in life rather than depend on the State to provide it for him.

The future is not as bleak as the pessimists imagine; when things get really ugly, our few remaining devoted patriots (and though not many, there will be enough) will rise up and start the second Revolution. Though I neither advocate nor condone the violent nor forceful overthrow of our State, there remains the possibility that the necessity for spillage of blood may arise.

When this happens, the other countries will look at us smugly, content in their iron grip over their citizenry, and proud of the fact that such a revolution would never happen in their well-behaved, "civilized" societies. And for a time we may regress socially, diplomatically, or economically, but it will not be long. We've been through the fire before. America, I believe, more so than any other nation in history, has the innate ability to revive herself out of her own ashes, unlike the many fallen empires of old.

Our Declaration of Independence recognizes that people have not only the right, but the solemn duty to overthrow their government -- to commit treason -- if they assess that it's gotten out of hand. This is why we still recognize man's right to bear arms. A government is afraid of an armed citizenry, and thus throughout history has always tried to disarm it.

The Declaration established our country. The Constitution provides for its governance. The Bill of Rights recognizes the inviolable rights of free men, upon which the state may never trespass. Too often people forget this. The state does not grant me any rights: they are inalienably mine as a free man. Rather, I allow and tolerate a certain degree of government to exist -- at my own pleasure.

If people would get up off their butts, unplug their iPods, and turn off their TVs for a few minutes, then step back to look at the big picture, they would not much longer put up with the excesses and buffoonery presently being committed by our elected "leaders."



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04 Jan 2008, 12:39 pm

i have no national pride, sorry. i think arizona and new mexico should become one state and then thier own country :drunken: :sunny:



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04 Jan 2008, 12:54 pm

I think there are alot of things that need improovment, but I still would prefer the United States above most other countries. My choises go around the amount of poverty and diversity for the most part. I don't want to have a dictator, be kicked out of stores or arrested for looking like I do, or live amung a badly hurting people. I can agree on the government being flawed to.



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04 Jan 2008, 11:30 pm

I have mixed feelings about America, but I'm at least pleased to live in a country where we can publicly make fun of our leaders without worrying that our families will be kidnapped in the night. America feels to big for me to feel for the whole country, so I direct my pride toward my home state. Hooray for Wisconsin :) lol



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05 Jan 2008, 1:48 pm

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Love my country. Hate the government. Hopefully Ron Paul will change that. We need to greatly reduce the enourmous size of government and the power it has and return power to the people (states and local government). Only then will we be free. I fear for America if Hillary or Obama get elected cause they want government to get even bigger and more powerful.
Oh, no! I actually agree with you about something. 8O How can this be? :? Image Cure neoconservatism, not autism.



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06 Jan 2008, 11:18 am

I live in the best country in the world, in the best possible part of the country. I love my hometown of Santa Maria, California. I wouldn't want to live in L.A. As some people have said, it's pop culture run amok and doesn't represent America to me. In fact, they try to run the country down every chance they get. I wish some of those idiot actors would have made good on their promises to leave if they didn't like it.

The idea of Hillary or Obama getting in scares me to death. I also don't want a phony like McCain or an anti-war agitator like Ron Paul on my own side of the aisle. I am for Guiliani. His leadership during 9/11 saved New York City. He was the right man at the right time. I don't like that he committed adultery, but sigh, no one is perfect.

I am probably more conservative than the majority of people on the boards. I say the things I do out a geniune patriotism and love for my country. I have read about the horrible things that go on in other countries, and not just Third World ones. Yes, nobody's perfect, but I think my country is pretty close.



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06 Jan 2008, 1:31 pm

I agree w/ 9CatMom. No country around the world is perfect. Every country fits a particular person. But I still want a president who will stop this Iraq war and spend time developing ways of detering crime in the USA.



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06 Jan 2008, 2:37 pm

The country has forgotten the ideals it was founded upon. I think people need to be more prepared to fight an oppressive regime.



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06 Jan 2008, 4:20 pm

A large piece of very diverse land that its dogmatic inhabitants don't appreciate.


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06 Jan 2008, 6:23 pm

mikebw wrote:
The constitution doesn't give me my rights, it only recognizes them. Our current government steps all over our rights.

Those patriots who died for our freedom would slap the piss outta us for allowing our government to steal so many of them. They would call for a revolution.


Well I called for a revolution too and was laughed out of WP Politics.



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06 Jan 2008, 9:57 pm

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I say the things I do out a geniune patriotism and love for my country.


I realize I only picked out one sentence 9CatMom, but I appreciated the honestly of your entire post. Mine on an earlier page was also honest and heartfelt. While we don't agree on a lot to things, your sentence there struck me. I said the things I did for exactly the same reason. I volunteered for military service when I graduated from college. I intended to make that a career, to serve my country. Unfortunately, I answered a question honestly on my physical and was flagged as physically unfit, permanently. I had no idea you couldn't have had a stomach ulcer and still serve... at least in 1982. My point was, and is, even those of us who may disagree with you politically, may do so based on patriotism and a love of country. I made a comment in my earlier post about getting my family out if this country turned into a theocracy. I stand by that, but I do say, if it weren't for my repsonsibility to my kids I would never run from such a thing, I would fight for my country and my constitution. A lot of us feel that way.


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