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BazzaMcKenzie
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04 Oct 2006, 7:13 pm

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there is an autistic woman (i forget her name) who wrote a book about ways to actually improve the quality of life for animals at slaughter houses... that is to say, make their last moments more peaceful (?)...

Not all of them are the same. I did some (accounting) work for Western District Meats (Australia) some time ago. They (and the industry) are very aware that a stressed animal results in less tender or tougher meat that has less value. At the time they were redesigning the abbatoir to "worlds best practice" to be able to sell meat at a premium on the export market.


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04 Oct 2006, 7:16 pm

I have a dream for fried chicken also.



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04 Oct 2006, 7:18 pm

BazzaMcKenzie wrote:
Sedaka wrote:
there is an autistic woman (i forget her name) who wrote a book about ways to actually improve the quality of life for animals at slaughter houses... that is to say, make their last moments more peaceful (?)...

Not all of them are the same. I did some (accounting) work for Western District Meats (Australia) some time ago. They (and the industry) are very aware that a stressed animal results in less tender or tougher meat that has less value. At the time they were redesigning the abbatoir to "worlds best practice" to be able to sell meat at a premium on the export market.


At the time.

However, nowadays, I heard Aussie abbatoirs are starting to become more like American ones, and THAT's not a good thing.

Anyone read "Fast Food Nation"?


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05 Oct 2006, 12:14 am

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It's tradition and religion at it's worst.

What tradition and what religion would condone this?



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05 Oct 2006, 12:22 am

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Litigious wrote:
It's tradition and religion at it's worst.

What tradition and what religion would condone this?


Well, you know "kosher" foods? It's not just what you eat, but how you kill it, if I remember right....


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05 Oct 2006, 1:00 am

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However, nowadays, I heard Aussie abbatoirs are starting to become more like American ones, and THAT's not a good thing.

What are the American ones like and why is that not good? :?

And anyway, you Queenslanders with your scab labour are causing cattle to be transported from Victoria to Qld for lower cost processing. It's all your fault :!: - lol


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05 Oct 2006, 1:29 am

BazzaMcKenzie wrote:
Quatermass wrote:
However, nowadays, I heard Aussie abbatoirs are starting to become more like American ones, and THAT's not a good thing.

What are the American ones like and why is that not good? :?

And anyway, you Queenslanders with your scab labour are causing cattle to be transported from Victoria to Qld for lower cost processing. It's all your fault :!: - lol


Hey, don't blame me! 8O


Apparently, after one beef-packer company was formed, it started to use a "conveyer belt" technique for it, eliminating the need for skilled workers. Many jobs in the meatpacking business were sh***y, but at least, until that company came along, they paid well. Then all the meatpacking businesses went all copycat.

If you want, read "Fast Food Nation", and in particular, the chapters "Cogs in the Machine" and "The Most Dangerous Job".

(I just opened up my copy a few seconds ago, which was brought from an ex-library bookshop, and saw after a comment by potato tycoon JR Simplot, I found, written in pen, "American F***wits! No wonder your WTC Towers were knocked down.")

Oh yeah, the first company to use it was Iowa Beef Packers.


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05 Oct 2006, 5:10 am

Gwenfloor wrote:
Litigious wrote:
It's tradition and religion at it's worst.

What tradition and what religion would condone this?


Islam and judaism for example.


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05 Oct 2006, 9:39 pm

I realized that American and first-world slaughterhouses are more merciful to the animals. The third-world, on the other hand, it appers as though the workers want to cause intentional suffering to an animal, instead of quickly and painlessly killing it in order to kill more animals and help production. When I asked my Dad why third-world slaughterhouses are more cruel, he said that the workers simply don't care. I do not understand this. Apathy is no excuse for sadistic acts, and both are unrelated to each other.