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03 Nov 2022, 12:05 pm

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I don't get why it's rocket science for most people to apply the same rules to all kids than to that one special kid. see my thread in parenting.



The whole point of special ed is that the students have special or individual learning needs.
They can have the same rules big picture like "Don't punch people!" but other rules might vary.
One might be allowed to use a pencil grip or fiddle, but the others don't need that accommodation.
The child with Tourette's might be able to speak out, but the others aren't.
Etc.



When I was a kid, they enforced rules on me but those rules didn't apply to other kids so it made me angry and i acted out as a result because I felt singled out and bullied and oppressed. Why couldn't they just enforce rules on all kids so I wouldn't feel singled out and picked on? Then my school had the audacity to say I have a behavior disorder and even my therapist said they were the problem, not me.


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03 Nov 2022, 12:07 pm

Did you have an IEP?

IEP includes behavioural accommodations and social skills, not just academic goals.

I can see how that would be really frustrating for you though.
What types of rules did they impose on you?


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03 Nov 2022, 12:09 pm

IsabellaLinton wrote:
Did you have an IEP?

IEP includes behavioural accommodations and social skills, not just academic goals.

I can see how that would be really frustrating for you though.
What types of rules did they impose on you?



Yes I had an IEP and the rules they imposed on me where rules they had in general but they didn't enforce them on other kids, only on me. Other kids could have bad days and be silly and goofy but if I did any of it, oh no I had committed a crime.

Funny thing is I read that special ed kids are the most well behaved than typical kids but to me this wasn't true because I wanted to be a typical kid, I wanted to be normal so I copied other kids to be normal. If anyone tried to enforce rules on me but let other kids get away with it, I would just get angry. I told my mom my school wouldn't have had an issue with me if they just enforced the rules on all students and punish a kid every time they break a rule than having them getting away with it because all it did was showed me that rule wasn't a real rule. All it did was it made it hard for me to know right from wrong if rules were not enforced for everyone.

When I was in a self contained class, some students had their own special rules so I thought our teacher assigned rules to each student so I used to break every rule I knew to see what special rule I had and getting into trouble was always worth it because it helped me figure out what rules applied to me and what rules didn't apply to me. My mom blamed my problem on this class I was in regarding understanding rules and right from wrong. But in a way I was being a typical child because most kids test rules to see where the lines are drawn and what their limits are. My husband told me, "most kids don't think that way."

Ironically my mom took me out of this class because it was a bad environment for me due to the inconsistency of rules and I was just copying negative behaviors of other kids so my mom put me in a regular class with regular kids to I could copy normal behavior where kids set a good example for me only for the problem to follow but this time with me being singled out and I realize I did have my own special rules, rules being enforced on me but not on other kids and I hated that special rule. :x


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03 Nov 2022, 12:15 pm

That's sad. :(

I have issues with the public school system so maybe don't get me started. :evil:

Maybe you hadn't demonstrated the ability to break the rules responsibly?
Sorry I can't think how to word it.
For example:
If kids weren't allowed to use the bathroom during class time ...
Maybe they had that rule at the start of the year.
Some kids showed they could go and come back responsibly as the year went on.
Maybe they proved that they could be trusted.
Maybe you went and took too long, or fooled around, or something?
I'm just guessing.
I have no idea and I'm not trying to suggest you were a bad kid.

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03 Nov 2022, 12:24 pm

IsabellaLinton wrote:
That's sad. :(

I have issues with the public school system so maybe don't get me started. :evil:

Maybe you hadn't demonstrated the ability to break the rules responsibly?
Sorry I can't think how to word it.
For example:
If kids weren't allowed to use the bathroom during class time ...
Maybe they had that rule at the start of the year.
Some kids showed they could go and come back responsibly as the year went on.
Maybe they proved that they could be trusted.
Maybe you went and took too long, or fooled around, or something?
I'm just guessing.
I have no idea and I'm not trying to suggest you were a bad kid.

:(


Funny thing is my son is the opposite of me when it comes to rules because my son has no desire to be like everyone else, he is his own person, has his own morals and thinks other kids are stupid if they break rules. So he doesn't have that problem I had as a child. He will actually follow rules to a point he has anxiety and he suffers and he has even skipped school because of it because he has bowel issues and the bathroom rules teachers have made my son think he had to poop his pants in class and be humiliated so he would refuse to go to school when his bowels would be active that day, he can't hold it if he has to go. I had to talk to his teacher about his bowel issue and how her bathroom policy is an issue for him. The teacher tried to be accommodating but it wasn't enough for my son so the school nurse called because my son missed half of the school year already so I told her the problem and she decided to give him a medical exception. Now my son goes to school now and he has a change of clothes and baby wipes in the nurse's office for in case he has an accident and couldn't make it to the toilet in time.


To answer your question:

It wouldn't occur to me to abuse privileges and rules. I wasn't that type of person and it took abstract thinking and being clever and I was a concrete child. But if I saw other kids doing it, then yeah because they put ideas in my head and showed me you can act that way not even knowing they're wrong and being dishonest.


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03 Nov 2022, 8:06 pm

i don't get it when people enjoy getting their necks snapped back and forth while riding roller coasters.



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04 Nov 2022, 12:22 am

I don't get why people make such a big deal over perfect bodies.


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04 Nov 2022, 12:35 am

i don't get why so many 'muuuricans get all bent outta shape when they see nekkid people or body parts, or when they even hear profanity. we're a nation of hypocritical puritans.



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04 Nov 2022, 12:50 am

I don’t get why some people lie. Don’t they feel silly and embarrassed when they get caught and they always seem to get caught



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04 Nov 2022, 6:47 am

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Fairweather friends


Yes! Me neither.

Do you get the other sort? Foulweather friends. They love you when you're struggling and making a mess of things, then when you start succeeding and doing well, they get jealous and huffy.

I think I've had that. I was the loser at school- unpopular, no boyfriend, constantly getting into a mess about everything. Yet when I met the love of my life and married him, I assumed my 'friends' would be happy for me. Nope. They got in a huff and distanced themselves. I guess they didn't feel so superior anymore :roll: :roll:


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04 Nov 2022, 6:49 am

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i don't get it when people enjoy getting their necks snapped back and forth while riding roller coasters.


Me neither. I hate funfairs and things like that. Life is scary enough without going on those things. They make me sick, anyway, I don't want to be sick again.


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04 Nov 2022, 8:25 am

i don't understand how people can derive enjoyment watching people knock a ball around, or racing noisy cars around a track for 3 hours.



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04 Nov 2022, 9:04 am

I don't get why people look at me when I meow on the subways-----I probably should "get why," though. I guess I'm pretty stubborn LOL



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04 Nov 2022, 9:05 am

i don't get why i can't just go outside nekkid, if they don't like it they can just look away as well as teach their ill-mannered kiddos to not stare.



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04 Nov 2022, 9:43 am

I don't get why Kraftie doesn't go out naked, and why auntblabby doesn't meow on the subway.


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04 Nov 2022, 9:47 am

'cause there ain't no subways within half a day's drive of me, that's why [i live out in the sticks].
i don't get why marjorie taylor greene doesn't just go to the moon already.