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Kitty4670
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04 Jul 2025, 12:58 am

Why do people start setting off fireworks last month?



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04 Jul 2025, 3:24 am

Pride in Founding Fathers
Pride to have birthday celebrated for the country
Patriotism.
Brains bathed in extra amounts of Dangerously high levels of testosterone. ?


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04 Jul 2025, 3:50 am

Where I live, the population is so small that we only hold 4th of July celebrations in even numbered years.

Usually the only business that stays open is the gas station, but I think that the grocery store will be open for a short time.



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04 Jul 2025, 4:35 am

Where I live the heart of downtown will have streets closed off and no street parking, for a parade and lots of festivities going on. Then there will be a community fireworks show over the bay.



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04 Jul 2025, 4:38 am

Kitty4670 wrote:
Why do people start setting off fireworks last month?

Because they wanted to, but yeah that does seem a bit early.


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04 Jul 2025, 12:13 pm

Alcohol, other drugs, and stupidity. Also not caring about other people is fun.



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04 Jul 2025, 12:38 pm

Someone just let a banger off round here

My daughter and myself both looked at each other and said in tandem "it's broad daylight and it's pissing down"

And there goes another


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04 Jul 2025, 1:20 pm

Because fireworks are fun.


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04 Jul 2025, 1:31 pm

Every few nights since just before Juneteenth.



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04 Jul 2025, 1:38 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
Because fireworks are fun.


People like to throw them at me

I can't think why


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04 Jul 2025, 1:42 pm

babybird wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Because fireworks are fun.


People like to throw them at me

I can't think why


Throw some back. :P


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04 Jul 2025, 1:50 pm

I jumped over a wall :lol:


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04 Jul 2025, 2:36 pm

On a warm summer's evening in the late 1980s, on a train in southern France bound to Nice. I met up with a young American that began to speak. He first pointed out that it was July 4th and then continued: "How is that celebrated in Europe?" I replied: "Why would we celebrate that?" This young American gave me a strange look and kept quit for the rest of the journey.


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04 Jul 2025, 2:41 pm

Yeah I can't see why anyone would be letting them off for 4th July round here but they seem to celebrate everything and anything

It's quite multicultural


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04 Jul 2025, 3:05 pm

The 4th that’s Independence Day, for you USA lot over there, normal day over here but it was Independence Day for us in 2020 because that’s when the first covid lockdown ended



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04 Jul 2025, 4:32 pm

Ken White of the Pope Hat Report sent out this story on the mailing list today:

THE FOURTH OF JULY

Nearly thirty-five ago, in the hot summer of 1992, I was working as an extern for Judge Ronald S.W. Lew, a federal judge in Los Angeles. One day in early July he abruptly walked into my office and said without preamble "Get your coat."

Somewhat concerned that I was about to be shown the door, I grabbed my blazer and followed him out of chambers into the hallway. I saw he had already assembled his two law clerks and his other summer extern there. Exchanging puzzled glances, we followed him into the art-deco judge's elevator of the old Spring Street Courthouse, then into the cavernous judicial parking garage. He piled us into his spotless Cadillac and drove out of the garage without another word.

Within ten awkward, quiet minutes we arrived at one of the largest VFW posts in Los Angeles. Great throngs of people, dressed in Sunday best, were filing into the building. It was clear that they were families — babes in arms, small children running about, young and middle-aged parents. And in each family group there was a man — an elderly man, dressed in a military uniform, many stooped with age but all with the bearing of men who belonged in that VFW hall. They were all, I would learn later, Filipinos. Their children and grandchildren were Filipino-American; they were not. Yet.

Judge Lew — the first Chinese-American district court judge in the continental United States — grabbed his robe from the trunk and walked briskly into the VFW hall with his externs and clerks trailing behind him. We paused in the foyer and he introduced us to some of the VFW officers, who greeted him warmly. He donned his robe and peered through a window in a door to see hundreds of people sitting in the main hall, talking excitedly, the children waving small American flags and streamers about. One of the VFW officers whispered in his ear, and he nodded and said "I'll see them first." The clerks and my fellow extern were chatting to some immigration officials, and so he beckoned me. I followed him through a doorway to a small anteroom.

There, in a dark and baroquely decorated room, we found eight elderly men. These were too infirm to stand. Three were on stretchers, several were in wheelchairs, two had oxygen tanks. One had no right arm. A few relatives, beaming, stood near each one. One by one, Judge Lew administered the naturalization oath to them — closely, sometimes touching their hands, speaking loudly so they could hear him, like a priest administering extreme unction. They smiled, grasped his hand, spoke the oath as loudly as they could with evident pride. Some wept. I may have as well.

One said, not with anger but with the tone of a dream finally realized, "We've waited so long for this."

And oh, how they had waited. These men, born Filipinos, answered America's call in World War II and fought for us. President Franklin D. Roosevelt asked the men of the Philippines to fight, promising them United States citizenship and veterans benefits in return. 200,000 fought. Tens of thousands died. They weathered the brutal conditions under Japanese occupation, fought a valiant guerrilla war, and in some cases survived the Bataan death march.

In 1946, Congress reneged on FDR's promise. Filipino solders who fought for us and their families were not given their promised citizenship, let alone benefits. Many came here anyway, had children who were born U.S. citizens, and some even became citizens through the process available to any immigrant. But many others, remembering the promise, asked that it be kept. And they waited.

They waited 54 years, until after most of them were dead. It was not until 1990 that Congress finally addressed this particular stain on our honor and granted them citizenship. (Their promised benefits were not even brought to a vote until 2008, when most of the happy men I saw that day were dead.) Hence this July naturalization ceremony.

After Judge Lew naturalized the veterans who were too infirm to stand in the main ceremony, he quickly took the stage in the main room. A frantic, joyous hush descended, and the dozens of veterans stood up and took the oath. Many wept. I kept getting something in my goddam eye. And when Judge Lew declared them citizens, the families whooped and hugged their fathers and grandfathers and the children waved the little flags like maniacs.

I had the opportunity to congratulate a number of families and hear them greet Judge Lew. I heard expressions of great satisfaction. I heard more comments about how long they had waited. But I did not hear bitterness on this day. These men and their children had good cause to be bitter, and perhaps on other days they indulged in it. On this day they were proud to be Americans at last.

Without forgetting the wrongs that had been done to them, they believed in an America that was more of the sum of its wrongs. Without forgetting 54 years of injustice, they believed in an America that had the potential to transcend its injustices. I don't know if these men forgave the Congress that betrayed them and dishonored their service in 1946, or the subsequent Congresses and administrations too weak or indifferent to remedy that wrong. I don't think that I could expect them to do so. But whether or not they forgave the sins of America, they loved the sinner, and were obviously enormously proud to become her citizens.