WTF is up with psych meds?

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Anti-depressants and other psych meds can cause suicidal feelings and thoughts in some patients.

That it totally F-ed up! It's like Excedrin CAUSING headaches! Might as well go to McDonald's to eat "right", y'know?

Is there a component of the medicine that's in it that does it or...something? Can't they take it out?

You know, I'm about ready to tell the doc to forget all this horsesh*t with trying different meds that clearly I'm not suited for and go with more extreme methods like MAOIs or ECT or something.

He'll say "those are last resort options". Well, you know what? You gotta go with what works and if ECT works, skip all the horsing around and eliminate the guesswork and gimme the F-ING ECT already! If Lithium works and I have to get my levels checked periodically, so be it!

while were on the subject, what the f**k is up with those anti-depressant commercials? "Living with depresion is hard." *cue sad music* "I feel like I have to wind myself up just to get out of bed."

It's like, come on! Your commercials are depressing! Depressing me will not want to make me buy your antidepressants! show me the happy afterwards! skip the sad sad beginning!

Urg.

and yeah, WTF, no Antidepressants should make you depressed and suicidal. that's counterproductive...

such ads are banned here

As they are in Canada, unless one has satellite tv channeling in American stations.

Re: anti-depressant ads

My gripes about AD ads is that it might be easy for some people, but I think how often it works out that way is exaggerated...

"Depression is so easily treatable -- just take our pill. Although we'll list the dire side effects at the end of this ad, we won't mention the ones that are non-fatal but possibly worse than the depression you're experiencing. And you won't have to play merry-meds-go-around, because the med isn't working, or stopped working, or has intolerable side effects, because we'll never mention that those things can and do happen -- because depression is so easily treatable. And we'll not mention that you'll pay through the nose for these drugs, because it's all so simple."

i think the defense used is along the lines that they give people enough drive and therefore motivation to actually do rash things that they would have had an inclination towards anyway. Not that im defending them!

Sometimes the suicidal thoughts stretch to killing the whole family unit (to save them the grief of being left behind i think) - scary stuff.

what psych said. when you're really depressed you're too disorganised and apathetic to even kill yourself when you start taking meds you get the dopamine kick that lets you make those plans a reality.

also, when on meds suicidal thoughts get more organised, like planning and preparing instead of just whining "I feel so bad and I want to die".

And antidepressants/stimulants are crap, people too much buy into these things, especially users on that site!

Psychiatry, as a field, is full of crap itself, it's a crappy major.

ShadesOfMe recalls me of a line I read there: http://www.newsweek.com/id/213088&GT1=43002

they help and that's all I care about

In our country,the officials would still debate if they'll ban it or not..but upon the final decision is/was made, those ads are already famous (full democracy is rusty )

people who are severely clinically depressed often don't have the emotional drive to do anything... including suicide. People who are suicidally depressed are above the range of severe clinical depression. The medication will bring people out of severe clinical depression, but for a brief period of time (as they are coming out of it) they will be within the window of the suicidally depressed. So their emotional drives are increasing towards a more normal level, but it runs the risk of them recovering the drive to commit suicide before the actual imbalance that causes the depression is fully corrected.

Doctors increase monitoring of patients with severe clinical depression when they are first placed on medication to make sure that they don't kill themselves before the medication has full effect.

It is a little like taking antibiotics until you "feel better" and then not taking the remainder. Often you will "feel better" but not be better and only taking part of the dosage of antibiotics will in the long run, make you sicker.

Cool theory but depression / suicidal person does not one make necessarily

can you rephrase this? I am not sure I understand

if you have depression, it doesn't necessarily follow that you're suicidal.

no it doesn't. Which is why I think that antidepressants are not a good fit for all. Only for those that need it.