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digger1
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16 Mar 2008, 4:48 pm

how would I go on an offensive front against boards that have wronged me?



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16 Mar 2008, 4:49 pm

Don't



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16 Mar 2008, 4:55 pm

anything constructive?

I need to show them they can't play favorites with the popular NT people.

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The system we learn says we're equal under law
But the streets are reality, the weak and poor will fall
Let's tip the power balance and tear down the crown
Educate the masses, we'll burn the discussion forum down!



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16 Mar 2008, 5:12 pm

First you have to know you enemy. Understand them and learn their weaknesses!! !

Best just to let things go though. There are no winners in war.



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16 Mar 2008, 5:29 pm

I posted this on one of the offending sites:

How many people here have an emotional or mental disability? Ever feel excluded or feel that people treat you differently than normal people?

You all are normal. NTs we call them. NT means neurotypical. That means you are able to socialize and make friends and be a contributing member of society without difficulty.

Why?

Because you were taught by your parents who undoubtedly loved you and taught you the things that you needed to know when you were young. You didn't have parents who up and abandoned you at a young age and you weren't bounced around from foster home to foster home hoping that each foster home would not only provide a warm place to sleep but be there for you and teach you the things you need to be successful in life. No foster family that I ever had was in it for the love - they were in it for the paycheck and to make themselves feel better about themselves at the church social; "Look at me, I've opened my home to foster kids". None of them ever taught me the intricacies of social interaction, how to shave, how to play catch and all the things that good parents do.

Because my folks abandoned me, I don't have those skills. I have to learn them as an adult and it's much harder for an adult to learn how to make friends than it is for a kid as you can imagine.

Sounds like an excuse, doesn't it? Okay...try it sometime. Go ahead and put your kid in care and see what happens.

I want - I need to make friends and be respected. I don't want to be treated like a ¿Æ£@¤と お思 ret*d because it's been established that I have this or that or happen to fly off the handle at a situation that I don't understand or when I'm feeling attacked, I put up an defensive front that appears to be offensive to someone not paying attention or out of the loop.

"That guy is a ret*d" they'd say without knowing the whole story.

On forums anywhere, you'll find that the one guy with emotional problems is always singled out and ostracized because of the human capacity to join the pack - the wolfpack mentality without realizing that it's often better to stand up for the weakling than to join the others and attack.

It's not like I'm some friggin' child molester or some deviant like that. I am just a social misfit that's trying his best to fit in with the popular clique.

If I were an alcoholic, you might invite me to dinner but wouldn't offer me a beer. If you invited me to dinner, obviously you're interested in getting to know me better, perhaps even being friends. Friends help each other. If I'm about to break down and have that drink, help me out. Encourage me to be strong. Don't go off and call me names or talk about me in a negative way.

Yeah, I'm a social ret*d. I have a bad case of ADHD. I have aspergers, general anxiety disorder and depression. I'd gladly trade all of that for leukemia or some kind of lymphoma just so I could be liked for the time I had left.

I will not be excluded because of my disability.
I will not be ridiculed and be made fun of.



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16 Mar 2008, 10:52 pm

How about trying to deal with your own issues, rather than start attacking other people. What's that going to do for you?

Have you tried isolating you're problems one by one and try finding ways to deal with them? Or have you given up now or something?



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16 Mar 2008, 11:00 pm

That post really isn't going to help you, IMO. You can't appeal to the compassion of a wolf-pack that has already wronged you, especially when you bring up weighty psychological and developmental issues (my parents abandoned me) in public.

There's no way you can convince a social community to not play favorites with the popular NT people. The whole purpose of the community is to maintain solidarity by refusing to associate with the ideas they don't agree with.



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16 Mar 2008, 11:01 pm

Hector wrote:
Don't


That's good advice. I'm going to change my avatar, back. I've been on the defensive, against a couple of members, here for a half an hour. That's too long. I won't mention names. They'll know, who they are. :O)


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16 Mar 2008, 11:06 pm

If they don't have the sense to appreciate your posts, the hell with them. Walk off and let them make their own gravy.


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17 Mar 2008, 12:22 am

Attacking people usually leads to removal or other disciplinary actions. If you can't understand, for whatever reason, that attacking others is WRONG at least think of what will happen to you shall be unpleasant. Yes, this is argument by consequence, but those who can't understand that their actions shouldn't be, should at least think of themselves and what is better in the long run. If it is your goal to make enemies and be removed from forums, then proceed on the offensive.



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17 Mar 2008, 12:51 am

ok. you've convinced me.



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17 Mar 2008, 2:21 am

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
If you can't understand, for whatever reason, that attacking others is WRONG

LIES! You may live in an NT world, but damn their rules! Attack for all you're worth!
...but not here, k?

:P



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17 Mar 2008, 2:47 am

violentcloud wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
If you can't understand, for whatever reason, that attacking others is WRONG

LIES! You may live in an NT world, but damn their rules! Attack for all you're worth!
...but not here, k?

:P


@_o

Since when is it an Neurotypical rule not to attack others? Plenty of offenders in both AS and NT camps, but deliberately trying to hurt others is just plain to been as an incorrect course of action.



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17 Mar 2008, 2:50 am

Yeah, wasn't really meant to be a well structured point. Just felt like being the voice of chaos :lol:



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17 Mar 2008, 3:02 am

violentcloud wrote:
Yeah, wasn't really meant to be a well structured point. Just felt like being the voice of chaos :lol:


Oh. I did wonder, especially since you did: :P I'm just not good with detecting written humor. (Well some jokes are more obvious then others, but you get the idea.)



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17 Mar 2008, 3:05 am

...And likewise I can never really detect when I'm being humorous and when I'm just being malicious. The boundaries all got far too blurry a long, long time ago :D