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07 Jun 2024, 3:23 pm

Is that that cartoon


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07 Jun 2024, 3:26 pm

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Is that that cartoon


Yes, he's the yellow cat from Azumanga Daioh.


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07 Jun 2024, 3:29 pm

Oh right :)

I've never heard of it before


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07 Jun 2024, 3:34 pm

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Oh right :)

I've never heard of it before


Osakers seems like she might be autistic.


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07 Jun 2024, 3:36 pm

That's interesting

I like it when I can relate to someone or something I see on television


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07 Jun 2024, 3:45 pm

I don't smoke cigarettes often, but I am having a few tonight.



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07 Jun 2024, 3:49 pm

Oh yeah and what's brought that on then


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07 Jun 2024, 3:53 pm

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Oh yeah and what's brought that on then


I have several 20 packs that I haven't used from way back when, which I bought in bulk a long time ago. So I'm just trying to get through them all, lol.



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07 Jun 2024, 3:56 pm

:lol:

That's funny


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07 Jun 2024, 4:44 pm

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Thoughts originate in the brain. The brain, like the rest of our body, decomposes after we die.
Who is viewing those thoughts? Who sorts through them, assigning meaning or relevance?
I think the brain is capable of all those things.
So where do you fit in with that, having been (say) amused or pleased at recalling a memory or thought? Exactly who is feeling amused or pleased here?


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07 Jun 2024, 4:56 pm

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That's funny


Not all at once though. But yeah, slowly chipping away at them.. :lol:



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07 Jun 2024, 5:00 pm

Cornflake wrote:
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Thoughts originate in the brain. The brain, like the rest of our body, decomposes after we die.
Who is viewing those thoughts? Who sorts through them, assigning meaning or relevance?
I think the brain is capable of all those things.
So where do you fit in with that, having been (say) amused or pleased at recalling a memory or thought? Exactly who is feeling amused or pleased here?

I think we are our brains - brains that have been shaped through a complex interplay of nature and nurture. I think humans gradually evolved awareness and consciousness, not that I’m particularly knowledgeable on the topic.

My grandmother had always hated fish. She would shudder at the very idea of having any. When she developed Alzheimer’s, she forgot she disliked it, ate some fried fish, and said: “How delicious!” Obviously, that’s a really simplistic example, but I think that changes people undergo, especially with their personality, when they have dementia or a brain injury demonstrates that our personality and personhood resides between our ears.



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07 Jun 2024, 5:18 pm

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I think that changes people undergo, especially with their personality, when they have dementia or a brain injury demonstrates that our personality and personhood resides between our ears.


You can achieve something similar with psilocybin mushrooms. And presumably other psychdelics. If you take enough you get to a state called 'ego death' where you cease to be separate from anything else.

What that is isn't important, but it strongly suggests to me that our concept of being a person - a disconnected, independent entity - is just a result of a certain balance of chemicals in our brains and that other states are possible.

If that's the case then our perception of our personhood as different from the physical matter, what some might call our soul, could easily be just an illusion.


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07 Jun 2024, 5:25 pm

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I think that changes people undergo, especially with their personality, when they have dementia or a brain injury demonstrates that our personality and personhood resides between our ears.
Or that there's a chemical/physical problem with the switchboard, garbling what someone experiences and outputs.


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07 Jun 2024, 5:39 pm

Cornflake wrote:
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I think that changes people undergo, especially with their personality, when they have dementia or a brain injury demonstrates that our personality and personhood resides between our ears.
Or that there's a chemical/physical problem with the switchboard, garbling what someone experiences and outputs.

I’m sure that happens some of the time. I don’t really see personality/the self as a static, set-in-stone thing. It’s not uncommon for people to change over time due to internal or external stimuli. My brother has changed a lot over the years. He went from being a judgmental, close-minded, black-and-white thinking cult member with bigoted beliefs to an openminded and accepting liberal who is also my best friend. Before that, I wouldn’t have thought that a person could change so much.



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07 Jun 2024, 5:54 pm

I'm fairly certain that questions such as the ones being asked in this thread haven't been answered beyond reasonable doubt. Although I think that the brain being everything a person is, is more of a newer idea whereas the soul being separate than the body or something immaterial has roots in older philosophical traditions and scientific beliefs.

Then there's the theory that even the gut can influence how a person thinks, in a bi-directional way, i.e, the gut altering the balance of certain neurotransmitters and the brain changing how it signals to the gut and that can even be based on diet to varying degrees, or so some people believe.

And also the effect of gene expression which can change the wiring of a persons brain, and is influenced by the environment a person resides in, along with a persons specific DNA.