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I never said I'd find it pleasurable.

Rather, it'd be to test my skill, on creatures that are legal to hunt and are unwanted. Better a bullet in the brain than being poisoned IMO. This is called destruction of vermin. Ethically killing these creatures aids in other forms of hunting, where the creature taken is larger, and more "cute" and "fuzzy".

I'm also a predator, who fishes, and who'd also hunt for food.

The weapon doesn't matter. I'd use a bow if that's all I had; I'd just need to get closer.

the scrambled eggs in the toast basket look like orange palmetto

My brother's girlfriend won't eat meat unless it's been hunted or caught in the wild. I am like most people; I eat meat I buy at the store and try not to think about the horrors of factory farming. That is where the true suffering of animals are. No need to call me a hypocrite, I already know.

i do not subscribe to the idea that creatures that are "unwanted" by humans do not deserve to exist.
humans are very conceited and their eyes are rolled back into their heads in the dogged belief that it is only them that matter, and if they do not want something, then that something is worthless, and fit to use to hone one's skills on so as they can feel proud of their deftness of aim.


your supercilious reference to "cute" and "fuzzy" in quotes shows that you are contemptuous of the ideas of people who love animals.

i do not care if they are cute or fuzzy. a lizard has just as much right to live as anything else that is born.
i always knew this: i did not ask to be born as a human, and i did not earn the gift of being a human. a rabbit did not ask to be a rabbit, and a rabbit was not born a rabbit because it failed any criterion necessary to be given the gift of being human.

it is just the luck of the draw. rabbits have to live in the rain and suffer the cold and scratch around for any morsel of food they can find, and they always have to beware of predators. i feel sad for them, and i know that my life is no more valuable than theirs. i was just lucky and they were not so lucky.

your comments about "better to shoot them than poison them" are moot to me because they infer that the animals that are "not wanted" are not meant to live, and at least you destroy them in a faster way by shooting them. "ethical" destruction of what humans consider to be pests is not any consolation for my perception that humans are mainly conceited and wrong, and you typify the types of humans that i consider to believe they are elite as a species.




well i think it is fine to do what you need to do in order to eat.
you have watered down your stance to the point that it is not as arguable.
i eat meat. i see it at the butcher shop and it is already dead, and if i was not alive, that cut of meat would still be there, so i have no qualms with purchasing it.

if i was on a desert island and i had to fend for myself, i would catch fish too.

anyway, this is a random thought thread, and it is light hearted and so i do not want to drag it into a gutter of seriousness, so i will not reply further (i know i already said that). if the topic comes up in another thread sometime, then i will reengage in the discussion.
but really, there are many millions of humans just like you, and it is useless to spend energy in being resistant to their attitude as it is a waste of energy.
i just know i am not like them and that is the thing that matters most.

people will be yelling "yee haa" at the sight of an animal exploding due to their hunting skills for many thousands of years to come.

i lived and died outside that stream of attitude and i am happy for that.

Today I will put one foot in front of the other. I will do things.

it is ironic that if the whole world of people were to shout out their most fervent beliefs at the same time, then it would sound like white noise which would sound like "shhhhhhhh!! !" (which means "shut up")

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This is my sleep schedule from last night/this morning:

Go to bed at 2:30
Wake up at 5:20. Talk.
Go to bed at 5:27
Wake up at 6:35. Talk, do chores.
Go to bed at 9:35
Wake up at 10:00. Assure mother that I know how to walk the dogs.
Go to bed at 10:10.
Wake up at 11:15. Walk dogs.
Go to bed at 11:45.
Wake up at 12:15. Stay up.

So I got almost 6 hours of sleep but spent almost 10 hours accomplishing that.

b9,

That's fine. But I don't mind hunting stuff that people don't want around; I'm a hunter, and I'll take any opportunity that presents itself. I'm sure you watch every step you take so you don't step on ants, right? It's all equal, barring the amount of space dust used to make up the object (one can infer that everything is a part of everything when you take it further, and killing something is killing a part of yourself).

Well, I don't want to shoot off Bambie's jaw now, do I? That's not ethical, and whilst I'm of the same page as you are, i.e., all life is equal, that's not how society works, sadly.

I won't, and haven't cheered when I dropped an animal; I felt...relief in that it was quick and I hit where I was aiming, but that's it. I like hunting as that's what I like doing, and being good at something is something humans desire (I don't know why this is however, as I just feel it).

You know something, I really would like to eat some Chinese food right about now. I'm going to see if they are still open at 12 a.m.

"opportunity". that word gives your intentions away.


wrong. i do not bother to watch every step i take so i will not step on ants. you are using a hackneyed idea that portrays people who like animals to be flipped out idiots.
you color your response to me with a preconceived notion that i am a delicate feeble non macho woos who is at the mercy of flimsy and delicate ideals that are the hallmark of losers in your macho world.

i do not go out of my way to step on ants i see, and i do not look for ants to avoid that i fear to tread upon.


so quantity is quality? the bigger, the more valuable?

you use the name "bambie" in another thinly veiled attempt to portray me as a teddy bear hugger who is lost in a world of dolls and ribbons whereas you are at the coal face like a man who is not rocked by such delicate trivialities.


the same page of a different book.
i do not succumb to the laws that society drafts. i know what is right and it does not take social concord to validate to me anything that i believe.


but it had a life it was pursuing and now it is gone. all it's hopes and all it's intentions for all it's tomorrow are wiped out by your cleanly "dropping" them to death with thoughtless abandon and ignorant justification that you are superior and they matter not.


yeah ok.
you act on impulse. you can not argue your point to any resolution with me so just leave it ok?

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