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10 Nov 2016, 8:13 pm

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I feel like I want to talk to someone all of a sudden and I don't know why. I don't have access to such a person and I don't know what I would say if I did.

This is bad, this is the feeling that usually precedes a desperate crying meltdown.
I guess I'll just have to go to bed. I have a feeling I'll be crying myself to sleep though :cry: .

Are there limits to what you can text a person without being embarrassing? I want to ask someone how they feel about me and my actions, and I want their reply to be honest; if it is honest, it will be negative. I don't know why but I need to hear that from them. I want an acknowledgement that I have done poorly, not a blanket forgiveness because of ASD. Be vitriolic, dude, be brutal. Be absolutely honest, because then you will see that you don't want this, and that will just be so much easier than convincing you that I don't. And I don't, I really don't, because alone I feel strong and in control, and with you I really feel my shortcomings. You have expectations I can't ever meet, and I don't want to meet them because they're not me. You can't help me to get there because I don't want to get there, not in this way and with you anyway. That last bit sounds bitchy right? So acknowledge my bitchiness, don't write it off, because I'm trying to tell you something.

So the only way you can belive this person is telling the truth, is if they confirm what you think of yourself..

When I was in my last relationship, I wanted "out". I longed for it, and was looking forward to finally be free, but I was also ambivalent and panicked and changed my mind. Then finally I ended the relationship for good, but OMG I was so heartbroken. My therapiest said that maybe I ended the relationship because it was better that I hurt myself, then risking being hurt by him. She might have been right, I'm not sure. Anyway, maybe what you are struggelig with is similar in someway, or maybe not.



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10 Nov 2016, 8:24 pm

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So the only way you can belive this person is telling the truth, is if they confirm what you think of yourself..

When I was in my last relationship, I wanted "out". I longed for it, and was looking forward to finally be free, but I was also ambivalent and panicked and changed my mind. Then finally I ended the relationship for good, but OMG I was so heartbroken. My therapiest said that maybe I ended the relationship because it was better that I hurt myself, then risking being hurt by him. She might have been right, I'm not sure. Anyway, maybe what you are struggelig with is similar in someway, or maybe not.


Kind of. Looking at our 'relationship' factually/objectively I believe it should be totally over. The fact that it isn't (because he won't let it be over) shows me that there's an emotional component that's overshadowing the logic. I don't understand the emotional part; I need him to tell me. But within that, I also believe it will be over; if he's really honest about how he feels (good and bad), I believe he will see there's no future to it.

I am reluctant to use the word 'relationship' because I don't think we have one. That has to hurt for him, right? So why is he persisting?

Our experiences are a little different though because I won't be heartbroken, I will be relieved. I don't want to be alone but I can't do 'normal', which is what he is offering. It might hurt me to hear what he has to say but it probably won't; I'm not looking to be punished or tortured by his words, and I already know I'm bad with people. It hurts to be in whatever this is: I'm confused, I've had anxiety, panic attacks, meltdowns, you name it. All because I'm being asked to connect to a normal person and I can't. I want to cut my losses and I want him to want to too.



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10 Nov 2016, 8:47 pm

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Kind of. Looking at our 'relationship' factually/objectively I believe it should be totally over. The fact that it isn't (because he won't let it be over) shows me that there's an emotional component that's overshadowing the logic. I don't understand the emotional part; I need him to tell me. But within that, I also believe it will be over; if he's really honest about how he feels (good and bad), I believe he will see there's no future to it.

I am reluctant to use the word 'relationship' because I don't think we have one. That has to hurt for him, right? So why is he persisting?

Our experiences are a little different though because I won't be heartbroken, I will be relieved. I don't want to be alone but I can't do 'normal', which is what he is offering. It might hurt me to hear what he has to say but it probably won't; I'm not looking to be punished or tortured by his words, and I already know I'm bad with people. It hurts to be in whatever this is: I'm confused, I've had anxiety, panic attacks, meltdowns, you name it. All because I'm being asked to connect to a normal person and I can't. I want to cut my losses and I want him to want to too.

If you are absolutley sure you want to end it with him, what about being honest and telling him so. You don't even have to lie (and say it's you not him and so on) because it really is you, and it's not because there is something about him you don't like. I get the feeling you don't want to hurt him, but I think it's better to be honest. Yes, if he wants to be with you, and you are not being clear on what you want, wich makes him think there is hope, that might be hurting him. If you compare it with ripping of a bandage. It's better to do it fast, then slowly.That does NOT make you a bad person though. I'm sorry if I'm not much help here...



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10 Nov 2016, 8:54 pm

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If you are absolutley sure you want to end it with him, what about being honest and telling him so. You don't even have to lie (and say it's you not him and so on) because it really is you, and it's not because there is something about him you don't like. I get the feeling you don't want to hurt him, but I think it's better to be honest. Yes, if he wants to be with you, and you are not being clear on what you want, wich makes him think there is hope, that might be hurting him. If you compare it with ripping of a bandage. It's better to do it fast, then slowly.That does NOT make you a bad person though. I'm sorry if I'm not much help here...


Don't be sorry, you are helpful as always :) . I already told him frankly how I feel, quite some time ago now. I told him it wasn't working etc. and that I didn't want to be in the relationship. He said he wants to keep trying, and that's exactly what he's doing.
He isn't getting anything out of it. No physical contact, no social time together, but still he feels a claim on me somehow and I wish he wouldn't.
Tomorrow I will say it all again, because I'm worn out from this. It's been going round in circles for months now... I don't want it, I can't do it and I haven't done anything at all that a girlfriend would do. I haven't even been an attentive friend, let alone girlfriend. So yes, I will rip it off like a bandage (again) and hope this time he feels it.



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10 Nov 2016, 8:57 pm



There is no sutch thing as a mary sue! Everybody has flaws, even those "unrealistic mary sues". People who accuse somebody's oc of being one say that they're annoying and too perfect and flawless, well those are three flaws right there! :x :wall:


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10 Nov 2016, 9:05 pm

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Don't be sorry, you are helpful as always :) . I already told him frankly how I feel, quite some time ago now. I told him it wasn't working etc. and that I didn't want to be in the relationship. He said he wants to keep trying, and that's exactly what he's doing.
He isn't getting anything out of it. No physical contact, no social time together, but still he feels a claim on me somehow and I wish he wouldn't.
Tomorrow I will say it all again, because I'm worn out from this. It's been going round in circles for months now... I don't want it, I can't do it and I haven't done anything at all that a girlfriend would do. I haven't even been an attentive friend, let alone girlfriend. So yes, I will rip it off like a bandage (again) and hope this time he feels it.
When you have been honest with him, as you say, then I think it's his responsebility. He knows how you feel, so you should not feel bad about it. "rip the bandage of and hope
he feels it" that made me laugh (gallows humor) he he :P



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10 Nov 2016, 9:20 pm

Going to the cinema possibly tomorrow.


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10 Nov 2016, 9:27 pm

I am thinking about trying to relax despite not only having to interact with people but some communication with one of my neighbors when waiting for my pizza struck very close to home and it made me cry when I came back up.



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10 Nov 2016, 9:39 pm

Trying to construct my lesson plans on how Socializing would become natural than unnatural is hard with words. :x
There should be warnings on every level.
Lv.0 Should have anything to do with acting and scripting. I'm sure everyone already had their own ways on this level. ... Except there was no warning.
Lv.1 Should have anything to do with simple blending. Anything that an autistic could at least do with a few restraints, and without or little acting
Lv.2 Should have anything to do with the social rules - language, contexts, tones... The ranges and scopes, knowing exceptions, etc. 'What makes one social' beyond than just following on how to be appropriate
Lv.3 Should have anything to do with a bit advanced like 'vibes', 'timing', 'internal emotions', 'invisible lines', the 'unexplainable nonverbal nonvisual nonphysical stuff'
Lv.4 Could be something that not all aspies, or even NTs could get :| I don't know if it exists or not.


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10 Nov 2016, 9:42 pm

Lv5. It's Edna time


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10 Nov 2016, 9:54 pm

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Lv5. It's Edna time

Why is that :lol: why


Lv.5 Could mean 'How to be an empath or a telepath or at least a mindreader minus psychology, sociology, or something similar degree graduate' :o And several possible preparations from saving yourself from insanity, overloading, apathy, and others that I may or may not able to name.


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10 Nov 2016, 10:11 pm

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kazanscube wrote:
Lv5. It's Edna time

Why is that :lol: why


I was merely being humorous


Lv.5 Could mean 'How to be an empath or a telepath or at least a mindreader minus psychology, sociology, or something similar degree graduate' :o And several possible preparations from saving yourself from insanity, overloading, apathy, and others that I may or may not able to name.


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10 Nov 2016, 10:16 pm

I remember when I was a level 5 in skyrim, then I took an arrow in the knee and became a vampire.



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10 Nov 2016, 10:18 pm

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I remember when I was a level 5 in skyrim, then I took an arrow in the knee and became a vampire.



I recall when I was level5 in Star Trek Online and still wound up getting destroyed constantly.


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10 Nov 2016, 10:22 pm

You can get an arrow to the knee in skylanders? I play that game all the time and I've never gotten an arrow to the knee. :I


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10 Nov 2016, 10:24 pm

^ nope, this awesomeness 8)

Check out that soundtrack :P