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24 Dec 2015, 3:11 am

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The Giulia is stunning. Makes me want a Milano Quadrifoglio SOOOOOOOOOOOO BAAAAAAAAAAAAAD! If I'm not broke by the time the SZ is import legal, I need one:
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I could beat up everyone's Scion FR-S'es (yuck) on track days & subsequently refuse to tell them what those are!

What did you order??


Give me a call when you've bought it and I'd be more than happy to drive that beauty down to the docks for you, no guarantee that I'll actually load it onto the container though haha.


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24 Dec 2015, 3:44 am

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it is a shame about the scrape dent along the side of the car. it seems that they have not been able to refit the bonnet or the door so they fit snugly into their frames.



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24 Dec 2015, 4:27 am

Actually that one's in perfect shape. They're plastic-bodied for weight savings & balance (along with a rear-mounted transaxle 5 speed box), I just appreciate them for being bizarre... This pic neatly sums up the weirdness.
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24 Dec 2015, 4:38 am

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Actually that one's in perfect shape.

well it looks damaged to me. it looks like the panels do not fit together well and would fly off at high speeds, but there is no accounting for taste i know. i guess what i thought was a dent was actually a panel design feature. the angle of the shot made it look like that to me.



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24 Dec 2015, 4:42 am

This might be ones for you if you're into weird cars
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Well known for being able to do this
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24 Dec 2015, 5:50 am

Bimmer Z1, now THAT will fly apart. :lol:

Given that I like to rally Swedish beaters and that I've driven a friend's rusting CR-Xs', the SZ makes decent enough sense to me that I'd buy one on a whim as long as it wasn't my daily, I have a Volvo for that I plan on keeping at least another few years. Apart from my rally kombi I could stand to purchase ONE more car on the basis of style alone, at least that Alfa's red. :lol: If I can afford to that is. My stipulations are RWD, kooky, at least somewhat modern and surgical cleanliness. As totally unrelated as it is, a big part of me wants to build a Toyota Altezza clone. They're unassuming, almost fancy and I could fit a 1000hp turbo 2JZ-GE without completely disastrous fuel economy. Sequential turbos are interesting like that...
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24 Dec 2015, 5:55 am

i like large heavy wallowy cars. cars that lurch on their suspension in a heavy and predictable way.
i am impressed by large cars that have an elegant yet prominent stance and poise.
my father had a 1966 ford galaxy with a 390 V8 made in australia and aslo a fairlane 351 which was like it's little sister, and i drove them both and i learned how they behaved, and the thing i liked about them was their immense capacity to perform close to the specifications of smaller and sportier cars in the bends if treated correctly, and their superiority in a top speed capacity to smaller cars that if driven by equally adept drivers to idiots driving the large cars, would easily outperform the larger cars in a normal setting with curves and not only straight roads.

i could determine when to employ the surging power of the 390 just before a seemingly impossible bend for it to negotiate at the speed i was going, and with full acceleration, press the tail down so it was level with the road (due to the soft suspension) to level out the rear of the car and launch into the next straight with authority.

very few drivers ever really danced with a big and powerful but wallowing type of car for long enough to learn that it can be guided with anticipation to a very impressive line through the bends.

i do not like small boxy cars with stiff suspension, because while they may feel more stable at higher speeds around the bends, it is a false sense of security that robs one of the feeling of impending loss of control and makes accidents much more sudden and uncontrollable when they occur.

i have not the bravery to drive a car that seems rigidly stable up to high speeds in cornering as fast as i would drive a car where i can feel every foible in it's undercarriage as i get underway.



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24 Dec 2015, 6:10 am

Lately I've been playing with my friend's 302 foxbody Mustang, it doesn't make for a whole lot of threaded needles but I really like the dirt simplicity of gasser Fords. If we somehow get it in our heads that building a 302 powered Fairmont Futura wagon could possibly be a good idea rest assured we'll do it. :twisted:

In the meantime though I need to get back to Saabs - they're just my favorite playthings. No false sense of security in those, trailing link suspension is just second to none, in fact I'd choose it over a front or rear limited slip any day. I had a 9-3 high output boost controlled manually with a big clutch and I never even scraped its' limits, that thing was probably good for 170+ MPH, it broke its' speedometer and damn near everything else but I never had one issue with the motor, also Saabs are heavy, you can load them up like an Olds Toronado & just fade on/off the boost.


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24 Dec 2015, 6:26 am

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Lately I've been playing with my friend's 302 foxbody Mustang, it doesn't make for a whole lot of threaded needles but I really like the dirt simplicity of gasser Fords. If we somehow get it in our heads that building a 302 powered Fairmont Futura wagon could possibly be a good idea rest assured we'll do it. :twisted:

In the meantime though I need to get back to Saabs - they're just my favorite playthings. No false sense of security in those, trailing link suspension is just second to none, in fact I'd choose it over a front or rear limited slip any day. I had a 9-3 high output boost controlled manually with a big clutch and I never even scraped its' limits, that thing was probably good for 170+ MPH, it broke its' speedometer and damn near everything else but I never had one issue with the motor, also Saabs are heavy, you can load them up like an Olds Toronado & just fade on/off the boost.


I've always seen them as the underdog, been throwing around the idea of getting an old 9-3 wagon in a couple years as a second car to turn into some kind of track day sleeper.
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Gotta buy my first car to start with though haha, however when it comes time for me to have kids I know exactly what I'm getting and it sure as hell ain't a minivan
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24 Dec 2015, 6:43 am

cberg wrote:
Lately I've been playing with my friend's 302 foxbody Mustang, it doesn't make for a whole lot of threaded needles but I really like the dirt simplicity of gasser Fords. If we somehow get it in our heads that building a 302 powered Fairmont Futura wagon could possibly be a good idea rest assured we'll do it. :twisted:

In the meantime though I need to get back to Saabs - they're just my favorite playthings. No false sense of security in those, trailing link suspension is just second to none, in fact I'd choose it over a front or rear limited slip any day. I had a 9-3 high output boost controlled manually with a big clutch and I never even scraped its' limits, that thing was probably good for 170+ MPH, it broke its' speedometer and damn near everything else but I never had one issue with the motor, also Saabs are heavy, you can load them up like an Olds Toronado & just fade on/off the boost.

i never drove a saab so i do not know what they feel like.
one car i did drive in a very fast manner was an old VW beetle with only a 1600 motor and it had seemingly supreme estimability as to how it was going to react around corners after just a short period of my orientation with it.

i had a mercedes 560 sel w126 ...here it is (my actual car with the number plate paint shopped over except for the numeral 72)
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...the likes of which i wanted to buy from a very young age when i saw one barging off at a set of lights with a powerful insistence and i was impressed at how the suspension seemed to lift up as the car got a grip and lunged ahead with that 560 sel type of roar.
well i eventually got one and i was disappointed in the ride quality and the seating position. i like to be perched high up in the seat of what i drive, and i do not like to feel smothered by the interior of the car.
it was extremely powerful in a very unique way, but the detracting quality of it's harshness of ride prevented me from ever developing an affinity with the car.
here is a video of it's performance to 170 kph (remember it is a 2,300 kg limousine).

very well achieved but the ride was it's downfall. always harsh and crude. there also was an annoying drumming sound that accompanied the ambiance of the interior sound characteristics.
now i have a holden statesman 5.7 litre V8 and it is modern and also "smooth" and it is what i currently enjoy driving.



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25 Dec 2015, 2:47 pm

I'm a big car lover, so I'm glad this thread is here :)

My dream car is a red Pontiac Firebird convertible (preferable a 4th generation). My dad used to have a 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury and that was an awesome car. I'm still disappointed he sold it :/

Image1968 Plymouth Sport Fury-belonged to my father by Elizabeth Pond, on Flickr

Right now, I have a Subaru Forester I inherited from my mom. I like it and I am very pleased with Subarus in general (my family has owned several), but probably would get a Legacy sedan next time I get a car.

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25 Dec 2015, 5:32 pm

My friend & colleague just picked up an Outback 2.5XT with a VF40 turbo swapped in, it's putting down about 320 crank horsepower & since he's waiting until the 5eat automatic blows up it bounces off its rev limiter causing it to flutter off the diverter valve until he upshifts, he even disabled the auto upshifts in 'sport' mode! I told him I think it's probably boiling his torque converter! It's also accessport mapped to behave like the 2jz-gte Supra motor, a la Toyota Altezza ^^^^.

If you get a Legacy get a GT! Or at least a 3.6R. Having driven turbo, H6 & normal Subies, the base 'i' models & the like just don't make any sense to me for the price anymore. Another friend of mine had a nicely built WRX with the same ej255 motor (probably stock turbo'd) and that thing did second gear launches from a dead halt at 5500rpm! If my mom buys an Outback I'll build it a proper motor.

170HP is ok but for 20 grand it just doesn't make any sense when upwards of 400 can be had in a lightly used subaru for half the price!

Or if you decide at the dealership that slow's fine by you, you could always just skip the purchase & do this instead:
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25 Dec 2015, 6:17 pm

Cord, American 30's film star's car

http://eclecticephemera.blogspot.co.uk/ ... -work.html



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25 Dec 2015, 6:23 pm

Earlier this year I bought a bowler hat.

Now I just need a Traction Avant!
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Those Cords are pure art too though, you can see a few up close at the Curtis LeMay museums in Tacoma, WA!


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25 Dec 2015, 6:32 pm

The Morgan Aero8 is a beautiful car

http://indianautosblog.com/2015/03/2015 ... motor-show

And the Morgan EvaGt is pretty damned sexy

http://www.carbodydesign.com/archive/20 ... gan-evagt/



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25 Dec 2015, 6:36 pm

Whilst the Goggomobil Dart is like something out of the Jetson's - an Australian / Bavarian fusion of ideas and a different kind of dream car:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goggomobil_Dart