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ike
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16 Aug 2007, 11:56 am

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I agree with you, username, but how common are TOTALLY EMPTY apartment complexes for sale? It's against the law to kick tenants out like that... we'll probably have to build our own anyway. :)


No they happen with reasonable frequency. It's not always apartment complexes specifically -- what you're looking for is called a "multi family dwelling". Start doing real estate searches for it, you'll find things like 4-plexes and townhomes, sometimes several side-by-side that are for sale, dormitories that are no longer in use, etc.



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16 Aug 2007, 11:59 am

I don't know much about it besides the fact that the Canadian/US currency rate makes living there really cheap and you could teach english over there as a job if you wanted.

I still think it would be easier to just get something in Canada though. You could start up an apartment commune or townhouse village for aspies only. THere are so many possibilties it hurts my mind.

It would be cool to have something kind of like a college residence.



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16 Aug 2007, 12:07 pm

Which possibilities are the easiest in every respect? :D



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16 Aug 2007, 12:16 pm

I think the best idea in in northern usa because its hard to get a citizen ship in Canada but allot ezer for a Canadian to get a citizen ship in the usa. And on a off topic the usa currency is in my opion heading for a huge crash in value cause of china which will directly send usa into a depression.


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16 Aug 2007, 12:20 pm

Yeah, the dollar's going down. Possible hard times ahead in the States.



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16 Aug 2007, 12:21 pm

I found the link a long time ago and I think it got sold cause I cant find it :/ If your still really interested in going there, there should be a good house for sale thats quite cheap



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16 Aug 2007, 12:48 pm

This one looks nice.
http://www.bulgarianproperties.com/show ... g=en&type=

Considering its an entire house, which would normally have a rediculous cost in the US, the price isnt bad at all. There are pleanty of rooms that we can use as/turn into bedrooms too.
http://www.bulgarianproperties.com/Hous ... brovo.html

Oh and heres a picture of the kitchen, very elegant 8)
http://www.bulgarianproperties.com/show ... g=en&type=



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16 Aug 2007, 1:21 pm

I just went on Realestate.com and started searching.

Here's one outside of Salem OR with 8 units http://realestate.com/axx/applications/ ... Search.asp

Here's one in a Portland suburb (likely not the best candidate because there are probably retirees still living there)
http://realestate.com/axx/applications/ ... Search.asp

It doesn't take a lot of looking to find one, there are loads of them around, it's just a matter of finding one that's in a decent area and has enough units.

Though we really need to establish our corp. bylaws and our status as a nonprofit or not-for-profit org before anyone will donate any money to us to purchase the property. And really we need to establish how decisions are made within the group before we file our articles of incorporation and before we choose a location.

While it might be nice to think about places like Bulgaria, there are a lot of us in the states for whom that's just not practical, so if you find something that works for you out there, great, just know that you'll be cutting out the majority of the people here who might be interested (you may get more from the UK tho). I'm not legally allowed to have a passport at the moment for example, which isn't even getting into the issue of others being uncomfortable with the idea of living (and potentially working) in an area where they don't speak the native language. I know a lot of us aspies like to be left alone, but that doesn't necessarily mean we have a skill that we can sell easily remotely to pay the bills from a foreign country where we don't speak the language. I have a sneaky suspicion it's also easier to get funding as a non-profit if you can speak the native language where it's located (and get donations locally) and I'm fairly certain the US isn't going to go for allowing us to maintain a US Corp. full of US "residents" who live indefinitely in an overseas country and get donations from people who actually are in the US and allow them to write those donations to an org that's physically located in a foreign country off on their taxes. And it's precisely these sorts of discrepancies between the couple of us here who're all gung-ho to fly overseas or buy an island and those of us who for practical reasons are either unable or uninterested in doing that which are the reason we need to establish a method of making decisions early on. Otherwise we're herding cats.



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16 Aug 2007, 1:26 pm

ike wrote:
While it might be nice to think about places like Bulgaria, there are a lot of us in the states for whom that's just not practical

I know, I learned this the hard way when talking about it previously... But its just an idea, maybe it will turn out to be a good one maybe it wont. At any rate, I agree that over all it would be better to stay in the US/Canada range, just for practical reasons. But it would be more interesting if we could go beyond those limits, but more than likely just wont be possible, which is fine by me. As long as something works is all I care about.



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16 Aug 2007, 2:00 pm

Though you're right, 64k Euros for a 5-bed house is damn cheap in Bulgaria compared to here... I used xe.com to check the exchange rate and it's still under $100k (in the low 80's). There are a few local economies in the US where there are some really good deals. Detroit's real estate market is hugely depressed right now as an example due to their entire economy being largely reliant on automotive, so when automotive took a dive, so did Detroit. I read an article (in the UK Register - feh) about somebody getting a full-fledged house for $8k in Detroit. If I remember correctly the headline was "A house is less expensive than a car". That may also mean that multi family are less expensive there at the moment, given that a certain number of people are more able to purchase houses that have been foreclosed on or it may mean that multi family are more expensive there now because all those folks put out of their houses are having to rent and the multi family buildings become more valuable to their owners. It's hard to say without looking in Detroit specifically. My only real concern would be that I'd like to be physically located in a liberal area (I think they'd be more amenable to the idea that they have a commune in their town or neighborhood), although the relative liberalness (or lack) wouldn't be a deal-breaker for me in terms of choosing a location. But I think if we can establish our guidelines for making decisions and figure out how to incorporate ourselves with all the associated bylaws that's definitely going to be the first step in acquiring the funding. Once we have the bylaws and we look like we're "established" to the potential donors, then we may find that it's not all that challenging to get the $8-11mil we would need for something like the last 2 I posted. Granted, challenging and time-consuming are two different things. :P It may not be terribly challenging -- it may still be rather time-consuming.



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16 Aug 2007, 2:08 pm

Since it will be so time consuming for it to be a full commune, lets all just rent out a multi-bedroom apartment to start us off and take it from there. Im running into a lot of problems living in the life that Im in now, its starting to get too overwhelming for me to deal with! I really cant take it anymore.. I hope I dont sound selfish for wanting to get the show on the road so soon, but I cant help it I really need this for my life pretty much now not later.. gah Im so frustrated :/



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16 Aug 2007, 2:21 pm

I'm a bit late to this thread...and I can't sign up seeing as i'm 16. But, I agree with the other people. If you are going to do this first you really need a good plan written down rules and everything. otherwise it'll flop. Great Idea BTW.



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16 Aug 2007, 2:24 pm

Renting is WAY more expensive than buying, overall... I know you're talking about now... why don't you come up to the camps for now, username? When my mopm gets back I'll ask her for the email of the people for the camp we're going to, and if she doesn't have it, our appointment with them is tomorrow so I'll ask them there... I'll tell them that I know maybe even as many as 5 people who might be willing to go up and work for them; I think they're really desperate for lots of workers right now.



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16 Aug 2007, 2:40 pm

Well when it comes to starting off in life, renting is much cheaper than just buying a house. Im really interested in those camps though if we cant get this commune thing goin soon enough. Thanks for all your help Ana, its greatly appreciated :wink:



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16 Aug 2007, 5:38 pm

$2000 for a parcel of land big enough for everyone on WP, ever aspie in the world?

I think u may need to raise alot more then that, ive seen acers around here go for $30,000. and thats outside the city.


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