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29 Jan 2017, 12:31 pm

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I have an idea that I might be able to prove with math, given some simplifying assumptions:
No system of rules involving people can simultaneously maximize simplicity, consistency and fairness.


Not sure if you're serious? I don't really see where math comes into it, though I suppose that could be a logic problem. it's kind of hard to prove a negative. It's the same reason why people can't prove that no gods exist.



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29 Jan 2017, 12:36 pm

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I do understand the feeling of disconnection. I know people want/expect more from me. I have a sixth sense about those things, and I also know exactly how to respond so that people do feel "seen". I just cant do it though, because I feel oblitirated inside. I'm sorry.


You're not saying that this applies to this forum are you? I don't believe people expect more from you or anyone else here.
Yes, I absolutley ment this forum. I enterpreted your original post with the disconnection and not getting enough back, that I also fell in that category. Why? Because I have felt several times that I should reply more to others when people reply to me. I feel this resistance in me, and if I push through that resistance and reply anyway, I don't feel well afterwords. It's hard to explain. Sometimes I don't feel that resistance at all. Sometimes I really want to reply. Othertimes I push through the resistance because I remind myself of how much this person have given to me.



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29 Jan 2017, 12:38 pm

It's just the outline of the idea, but I have to define some sets which represent those qualities, for starters.

I think the breakdown happens because people have an uncountable set of ways to act, but rules have to be a countable set.

Edit: I don't think rules have to be a finite set if you have judges.


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29 Jan 2017, 12:38 pm

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I have heard that when someone looses their loved one after a long life together, what they miss the most is the everyday conversation. To having someone to share there days experienses with. I wonder if that is why I like writing here about what I have planned for the day. I understand it's not much interessting to others to read, but if people don't read it, I don't know that :P Or if just one person reads it, that's enough.

So here we go. I hope to make a trip to the apartment today, but I'm not sure. For dinner I have planned something I haven't made before. It's very easy, since I'm not gonna make the meatballs from scratch, they are store bought. I wonder if they are any good. I had bought saus that was on offer, so now I have to make something that goes with the saus :P


Norwegian meatballs ... that sounds good! :)

I went to a barbecued ribs restaurant after the art studio today.


I had ribs today too.


And now I'm enjoying the leftovers ... :)



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29 Jan 2017, 12:44 pm

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If I have a conversation with someone I can suddenly see that they seem a little sad (or something like that) and then I quickly think back of what I might have said wrong. Then I say what I think will fix it (make them look like they feel better) and that usually works.


Or their sadness might often have nothing to do with you at all. :)
That's true, and I also sometime get that feeling. So then I "fish" a little to see if I can find out what is on their mind. Like for example: "So how are things at work now, is your boss still giving you a hard time?" Or I can ask: How are you doing? you seem a little down"



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29 Jan 2017, 12:47 pm

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I'm in a bit of a dilemma. I don't want to let anyone in emotionally, and I don't want to get to close to anyone. I am alone most of the time. When I write here about what I'm going to do during the day, I feel a little less lonely knowing that someone has "seen" me.


That makes sense, but is that all you're looking for? When you put stuff out there then, you're not like me, waiting to see what happens next? That's how I feel when I throw out details about my life anyway.
Well yes, I do hope to get some comment of some sort, but not everytime of course, because I post so much. I don't handle deeper conversations good. They can make me feel uncomfortable, maybe because I feel it commes to close. Maybe it's the connection thing you mentioned, that I pull back from. I feel when people come to close it creates an expectation. An expectation from me, that I will not be able to live up to.


That's so interesting. You pull back from the very thing I crave and live for and can't seem to get enough of offline.

My disconnection is my personal problem, not yours. :) But your answer makes me see why people might not want to connect with me. No one person could ever be the cause, and certainly not a person on a forum. The most I could ever say about someone on a forum is that we didn't connect at that moment. That's it.



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29 Jan 2017, 12:51 pm

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I have heard that when someone looses their loved one after a long life together, what they miss the most is the everyday conversation. To having someone to share there days experienses with. I wonder if that is why I like writing here about what I have planned for the day. I understand it's not much interessting to others to read, but if people don't read it, I don't know that :P Or if just one person reads it, that's enough.

So here we go. I hope to make a trip to the apartment today, but I'm not sure. For dinner I have planned something I haven't made before. It's very easy, since I'm not gonna make the meatballs from scratch, they are store bought. I wonder if they are any good. I had bought saus that was on offer, so now I have to make something that goes with the saus :P


Norwegian meatballs ... that sounds good! :)

I went to a barbecued ribs restaurant after the art studio today.

Yes, they where surprisingly good! Not as good as homemade though, like my grandmother made them. Maybe I will try and make them myself one day, I could get the recipe from my aunt.

Omg a whole restaurant with barbecued ribs, that sounds awsome. I love ribs!


Yes, you should get the recipe for meatballs from your aunt. Homemade is the best. My German grandfather used to make homemade sauerbraten with potato dumplings, and potato pancakes.

Yes, Famous Dave's is the name of the restaurant, and they specialize in every type of barbecued ribs you can imagine, with chicken as well for those who don't like beef or pork. They also have a wide assortment of sauces right at the table ... everything from the mild Sweet and Zesty to the hot Devil's Spit. I prefer the mild. They also play traditional American "blues" music and have a moody, rustic atmosphere, only with modern TV screens showing the news and tornado chasers.

I have some Scandinavian ancestry way back in the family history, would have to double-check to see if it includes Norwegian.

Anyways, it's nice to meet you, Froya! :)



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29 Jan 2017, 1:10 pm

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Yes, you should get the recipe for meatballs from your aunt. Homemade is the best. My German grandfather used to make homemade sauerbraten with potato dumplings, and potato pancakes.

Yes, Famous Dave's is the name of the restaurant, and they specialize in every type of barbecued ribs you can imagine, with chicken as well for those who don't like beef or pork. They also have a wide assortment of sauces right at the table ... everything from the mild Sweet and Zesty to the hot Devil's Spit. I prefer the mild. They also play traditional American "blues" music and have a moody, rustic atmosphere, only with modern TV screens showing the news and tornado chasers.

I have some Scandinavian ancestry way back in the family history, would have to double-check to see if it includes Norwegian.

Anyways, it's nice to meet you, Froya! :)
I had wished they had something like that in Norway, but as far as I know they don't. Maybe in Oslo, the capital of Norway.

A few years back they sold " American spare ribs" in the grocery store. They where frozen and came with some packets of a sweet barbeque saus. I enjoyd them so much. I think one box of ribs where suposed to be 2-3 portions, but I ate them all at once.

Nice to meet you too :)



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29 Jan 2017, 1:49 pm

What should I do this week?


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29 Jan 2017, 5:14 pm

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That's so interesting. You pull back from the very thing I crave and live for and can't seem to get enough of offline.

My disconnection is my personal problem, not yours. :) But your answer makes me see why people might not want to connect with me. No one person could ever be the cause, and certainly not a person on a forum. The most I could ever say about someone on a forum is that we didn't connect at that moment. That's it.

Ok :)



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29 Jan 2017, 6:42 pm

Should I cook or not?


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29 Jan 2017, 9:02 pm

Should I donate to the ACLU?


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30 Jan 2017, 5:27 am

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Should I donate to the ACLU?

What is the ACLU?



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30 Jan 2017, 6:30 am

My mind is still processing.
It'll beep when it's done.


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30 Jan 2017, 6:31 am

I'm up in the middle of the night, watching World News Now, wondering how I got back on this weird schedule so fast. I had about two days of sleeping like a normal person, but it seems to have been ruined by a long afternoon nap. It's 2 am, and I think I'm in today for the long haul.

I've also decided to buy a car. I was chatting about it with a friend who knows more about the subject, and he suggested I buy a Saab. I've always wanted a Saab, for a lot of different reasons: TURBO, obviously; the styling; people will assume I'm nice. I'm going to visit in a few weeks and we'll see what's available. There's a Merc E350 wagon for sale near my house, but the Saab will probably hold it's value equally well. FWD vs RWD. I prefer RWD, but I can live with FWD, if there isn't too much understeer.

For reference, a car with understeer will crash into a wall headfirst, a car with oversteer will crash into a wall tailfirst, and a perfectly balanced car will crash into a wall both ends at the same time.


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30 Jan 2017, 6:35 am

^ I would prefer a car that doesn't crash into walls.


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