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16 Jan 2019, 8:20 pm
ASS-P wrote:
...With the mention of Dr. Pepper(R) - You've REALLY! given me a chance to digress :l here, you may regret this - When I was a child in the greater/Metropolitan New York City area (" New Netherlands ") Dr. Pepper was not sold widely there (Apparently 100% not at all in NYC proper) and I associate Dr. Pepper, especially out of a glass with ice, with trips to my mother's East Texas family . A 60s Dr. Pepper commercial (" advert " ) (can't link ) sang " not a cola...but a blend)if rich fruit flavor/CHARGE!..." (ooper, went on too long )...and I recall a statement that, in soft-drink industry terminology, DP was not considered to be a cola...But, when Coca-Cola(R) introduced Cherry Coke(R) I recall someone who had a building mini-store saying to me "As far as I'm concerned, Dr. Pepper is Cherry Coke"?!
I've always assumed Dr Pepper and Cherry Cola were essentially the same thing.
Ray Davies's mention of 'Coca Cola' in the Kinks' 1970 single Lola initially got the song banned by the BBC, for promoting a specific commercial product, so it was hastily changed to 'Cherry Cola' in the version that was finally released. I like the way Davies rolls his eyes when he sings that phrase:
EDIT: and yes, just to confirm, Roast Chicken crisps would be some sort of 'chips' in the good ole US of A!
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16 Jan 2019, 9:19 pm
DeepHour wrote:
ASS-P wrote:
...With the mention of Dr. Pepper(R) - You've REALLY! given me a chance to digress :l here, you may regret this - When I was a child in the greater/Metropolitan New York City area (" New Netherlands ") Dr. Pepper was not sold widely there (Apparently 100% not at all in NYC proper) and I associate Dr. Pepper, especially out of a glass with ice, with trips to my mother's East Texas family . A 60s Dr. Pepper commercial (" advert " ) (can't link ) sang " not a cola...but a blend)if rich fruit flavor/CHARGE!..." (ooper, went on too long )...and I recall a statement that, in soft-drink industry terminology, DP was not considered to be a cola...But, when Coca-Cola(R) introduced Cherry Coke(R) I recall someone who had a building mini-store saying to me "As far as I'm concerned, Dr. Pepper is Cherry Coke"?!
I've always assumed Dr Pepper and Cherry Cola were essentially the same thing.
Ray Davies's mention of 'Coca Cola' in the Kinks' 1970 single Lola initially got the song banned by the BBC, for promoting a specific commercial product, so it was hastily changed to 'Cherry Cola' in the version that was finally released. I like the way Davies rolls his eyes when he sings that phrase:
EDIT: and yes, just to confirm, Roast Chicken crisps would be some sort of 'chips' in the good ole US of A!
...Thank you again! ! I am now listening to that TOTP performance (audio only, since I'm writing )...It sounds like a straight lipsynch of the record, not a new version. I have read that on TOTP (which was all but never shown in America) artists who appeared on it were supposed to record a new version of their song at the BBC studios before the show & lipsynch to it on the show, BUT, that bands would tend to, instead, " spend their fee for the show on booze (& more ?) and hang out backstage the afternoon of the show hoping the Musicians Union didn't catch them "! and just mime to the staight recording when they shot the show! Another BBC-friendly substitution of that sort from that period I know of was Mott the Hoople " All The Young Dudes "..." unmarkeplacing " Marks And Sparks "! As far as that old Beeb dislike of product references by name goes, you might think that commercial US radio and TV would be more concerned with " giving a free commercial " I guess but no .
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16 Jan 2019, 10:55 pm
It's probably the case that if that Kinks song had been released in the present period, it would have been far more likely to be banned for infringing some rule of gender PC (eg from 2:30 to 3:08), than for any reference to a soft drink.
Virtually all TOTP performances in the 70s seemed to consist of bands miming to the record, whatever the regulations stipulated. One of the few performers who did make an effort to sing live was Rod Stewart - the vocals in this clip are clearly different from those on the single release, though I'm not sure the same can be said for the instrumental backing track, which sounds identical to me.
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16 Jan 2019, 11:12 pm
TOTP sounds a lot like our Countdown. The funniest performance I can remember was James Reyne of Australian Crawl pretending to play the harmonica, looking very self-conscious about it, fumbling for it in his pocket at the wrong time and he even misses some of the music and looks like he's trying hard not to laugh. One of my all time favourite clips.
Even though I told them I had issues because I was autistic?
Anyway I emailed that email address. They say they'll provide clear info right?
I'm not even a bad writer. I explained everything twice, once to the disability liaison woman and once to the disability supporter's club man. They just ignored me.
It's not stopping me supporting them. I even still go to away matches. But I can't go to home matches and if you don't go to enough home matches you can't go to away matches which matter, like league ones, just friendlies.
It seems to be saying that anyone sensitive to light should sit outside of the main stadium bowl. Would that make
it ok for you? are you allowed to sit elsewhere?
They asked doctors and epilepsy but no mention of autism, it's the doctors who should have mentioned autism.
They say similar lights used elsewhere have not adversely affected anyone but I don't see how they can know that.
I'm trying to figure out how much would be included in the main stadium bowl cos if it means the bit of the stadium where you don't eat food then that would be really awkward, if you come in late then people get judgy because they want to watch the match. I've never before heard of this expression. Usually it's by the name of the stands or the family section or the Green Brigade section where the ultras sit or the disabled section.
I think they mean two separate things, one being the lights used like floodlights, which makes sense after about 3 o'clock (NTs are really bad at seeing in dim light), and the other being the stupid night club style strobe light show which there is no need for.
And also, I'm not sure they're right unless they mean go to the food concession area, cos I've been adversely affected in the past because of being a few gardens away from people letting off fireworks. I'm incredibly light sensitive. If I was sat right away from the pitch I'd still feel the impact.
I think they ought to provide an autism room where people can go then people can go in together and during the match if someone has a meltdown there's that option, too. They have that at Ibrox for goodness sake...