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19 Sep 2009, 9:43 pm

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This has to win the award for best thread title :star: :star: :star: :star: :star:

I know! :-)



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19 Sep 2009, 9:45 pm

I dunno...some of the ones in the Adult forum are more memorable.


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20 Sep 2009, 11:57 am

the cops in my town are a**holes. im an avid walker in my neighbourhood and i always carry my fire agate with me and i get inciminating looks from them. im just waiting for one of them to stop me and ask what is that in my hands. in my old neighbourhood i was stopped for walking on the side of the road, and crossing train tracks wich apparently is illegal. everything is illegal nowdays and its hard to almost live anymore


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20 Sep 2009, 12:39 pm

I only asked about a frying pan cause its the only thing in my dorm that might work for defending oneself. What am I supposed to use, a bag, textbook, lava lamp, water bottle, cookies otherwise? The only other stuff I've got are slinkys, a mug, cups, plastic spoons, a giant exercise or bumpy ball, a mini troll doll, food, clothes, a fridge, & a vacuum (these are the things I can actually try to/can move)? I did look up canes & carrying a wooden one is not illegal, but I don't have one. As to the pepper spray I don't know where to get it (a drugstore would be my guess) especially w/o dragging my parents along (I cannot drive).

p.s. I just read some of the comments while I was typing :lol: Also never try to unlock your house w/ a plastic fork, doesn't work. :oops: :lol:


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20 Sep 2009, 12:43 pm

Tim_Tex wrote:
I dunno...some of the ones in the Adult forum are more memorable.
Well, maybe they mean out of the stuff everyone (including the kids) can read.

p.s. Thanks to whoever said my title was good I didn't think it would be that popular :o


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20 Sep 2009, 1:44 pm

A frying pan? HAHAHAHAHA a shank made out of a toothbrush is a better self defense weapon. You also mentioned you wanted to carry one around. Do you seriously think you can pull a frying pan outta your backpack quick enough?

*Some psycho jumps outta the bushes with a 5 inch knife*
You: Excuse me while I take off my bag, unzip it, and pull out my frying pan

What do you mean what else are you supposed to use? That's a sh***y excuse. If you feel threatened enough to carry a weapon, then the smart thing to do would be to find one outside of your dorm. Put a beer bottle on your waist and stash a baseball bat in the trunk of your car. If you're not of legal drinking age, then get a Jones bottle.

If bottles are too big to stash in your waist, get a microphone and stash it with the head facing up. The round shape of the head makes it really easy to grip on.



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20 Sep 2009, 3:15 pm

I think that the frying pan is a bad idea, the best one I have heard of is an umbrella. A good umbrella is ideal for wacking thugs, in the UK you are not allowed to carry any weapon but there is no way that a policeman can argue that a normal umbrella is a weapon (until you use it as one).

I think that it is better to use your brain and try and avoid going into dark alleys and other high risk areas, rather than trying to make yourself safe by arming yourself.

The UK defines offensive weapons as

"Any article made or adapted for causing injury, or intended to cause injury" or "Any object carried for the intention of causing harm or injury to another"

Under the made section it would include things like sword sticks, these are items made with violence in mind.
Adapted might include things like razor blades glued to a toothbrush or two old fashioned toilet chain handles fixed onto the same chain to make a set of nunchucks
Intended would be a object not made as a weapon which is being used as one, creeping about in dark alleyways at 2 in the morning with an axe. Most police would view that the axe is clearly intended as a weapon.

While it might be quite legal to carry an axe, saw, hammer in a bag from your house to your friends house to cut down a tree for them or fix the fence, it would be hard to argue that you were about to do a spot of woodwork at 02:00 in a dark alley.

http://www.herts.police.uk/basestation/ ... #offensive weapon


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20 Sep 2009, 3:21 pm

Peko wrote:
Tim_Tex wrote:
I dunno...some of the ones in the Adult forum are more memorable.
Well, maybe they mean out of the stuff everyone (including the kids) can read.

p.s. Thanks to whoever said my title was good I didn't think it would be that popular :o


Ah, thanks for clearing that up.


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24 Sep 2009, 7:26 am

Woodpecker wrote:

While it might be quite legal to carry an axe, saw, hammer in a bag from your house to your friends house to cut down a tree for them or fix the fence, it would be hard to argue that you were about to do a spot of woodwork at 02:00 in a dark alley.

http://www.herts.police.uk/basestation/ ... #offensive weapon


My campus doesn't have many dark alleyways. Just a streak of rape reports in the past few years. Weeeeeee... and I lack ugly-dar to determine whether or not I'm remotely-totally or totally not attractive/plain ugly! I'd be less paranoid if I could at least determine if I count as attractive (more so to the opposite gender & possibly even same gender).


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24 Sep 2009, 11:26 am

Another option is taking self defense classes. They can teach you all kinds of things about being assertive, what to do when threatened. It might be more practical than carrying a weapon around. You can try carrying something like Pepper Spray but be sure you can aim it right.
A self defense class can teach you all kinds of ways to distract someone long enough to get away. If you don't want to take a class, you might be able to google it and find out some tips that way.



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24 Sep 2009, 3:56 pm

What's really screwy is that in a lot of places legality is determined by "intent", e.g. a few years back when Russel Crowe beaned a concierge with a cell phone, not only was he charged with assault, but also criminal possession of a "weapon", i.e. the phone. Being that as it may, if you really need to improvise something on the cheap, try dropping something heavy into an old sock, some suggestions being a bar of soap, a few D batteries, or a large handful of pennies. Much more concealable and useful than the frying pan, plus if you get stopped it's the work of seconds to dump the load out of the sock and be legally clean.


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24 Sep 2009, 3:59 pm

Good ideas and points. I just was able to get ahold of a whistle from the women's center at my school. Its shiny :D :D :D & if you blow it, police are supossed to come right away.


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27 Sep 2009, 3:05 am

This reminds me of thursdays lecture in criminal law class at school.Our instructor, a criminal defense lawyer, who also prosecuted, told us how the law in the criminal code of canada, interpretes a weapon as anything that can and is used in a way as to cause bodily harm or death on another person. He told us one story of how a person in Red Deer was charged with assualt with a weapon....the weapon was...A CAT!!!The guy used the cat as a weapon to assault his girlfriend by sticking the cat on her face and having it scratch her up.


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27 Sep 2009, 3:28 am

are you guys serious?
"probably illegal" to carry a frying pan?

dumbasses seriously :D i mean... how can you think that its illegal to carry a frying pan?
what are you gonna do? kick it along the ground?

its a FRYING PAN.

smashing someones skull w a tv-set is lethal as hell:

my mother has this loose piece of attachable wooden stairs for a balcony

its really heavy

Attachable-wooden-stairs-for-a-balcony are DEFINITELY illegal to carry outside., 8)


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27 Sep 2009, 7:31 am

I have a jaffle iron under my driver's seat.

A jaffle iron is a thing on a long handle that makes toasted sandwiches over an open fire.

It is also a damn big lump of metal on a two foot handle.

If I ever needed to whack some bozo I defy the police to declare that it was a "weapon".



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27 Sep 2009, 3:57 pm

Tory_canuck wrote:
...a person in Red Deer was charged with assualt with a weapon....the weapon was...A CAT!! !

:lmao:

So would the following be a federal offense?

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