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12 Nov 2009, 7:07 pm

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I don't think Netbooks do have a dial-up plug but I know that some of them will have a built in slot to put the SIM card for that mobile broadband to work or you could plug in a USB modem which i personally think is faster and recommended and alot cheaper than dial-up.

It makes me wonder? Is there a netbook that runs Windows 7? :?


Yes, I know of at least a couple. An Acer for $350 and a Toshiba for $400. I don't know the model numbers, though. The version of Win 7 they run is I think called "Basic" or "Start up." It is the least featured version of 7.


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12 Nov 2009, 7:11 pm

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...only option, 'cause I can't afford a Mac. :evil:

(tried Ubuntu, not enough software compatibility).




Leave it to Microsoft...

Ran the upgrade disc to bump Vista to 7...a mere six hours twas all it took... :roll:

The second it booted past the Windows 7 welcome screen, my monitor throws up a dialogue box saying "Screen Resolution Out of Range - Monitor Going to Sleep"

So for the next half hour, until it finishes its setup cycle, I have to keep turning my monitor back on every fifteen seconds, so I can follow the procedure and click OK when prompted, until it stops and I can finally go into Control Panel and adjust the resolution.

It gets done - Yay! I set up all my preferences, themes, wallpaper, etc, etc, add essential software, reboot.

Gets to the new Windows logo and hangs...and hangs...and hangs...finally, I have to unplug the unit to reboot. Hangs at the logo again. Runs its own recovery procedure - OOoOoHH, We're SO SORRY, but Windows CANNOT RECOVER from this error...

Long story short, after several cold boots, I did finally manage to get into Restore and take it back to the moment it first finished loading 7.

Its just so pathetic, that even with all the buzz about 7 being the most stable version of Windows EVER and so functional and such an improvement, that it f**ks up so royally right out of the box.

Schmucks. :evil:


I just re-read your post and noticed that you mentioned the high cost of Mac's. I would have responded to your post earlier if I noticed that. Have you actually checked the prices?


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12 Nov 2009, 10:23 pm

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Thank you for the warning Willard. I have Vista (don't care for it that much), and I have been considering upgrading this Dell laptop to Windows 7---but I am not so sure after your experience. Like you, I feel Mac is a bit out of price range.

Leejopsepho---Like you, I tend to like the older windows computers. My oldest functioning computer is an E Machine from QVC with Windows 97. It fought its way through many virus attacks and hung on. My biggest problems have come with the newer Windows.

I think I will now just continue to prod along with Vista.


I was very surprised how little a basic Mac (I bought a Mac Mini) cost, once I looked into it. I always assumed they were all expensive. I have been so much happier with the Mac! No more malware! Lately I couldn't resist a Netbook bargain, and figured I would set it up with a dual boot so I could use Linux for the web. I was able to do this, but am still struggling to get dial up to work with it. The Mac is so much easier. It just works.


Netbooks do not come with a 56k modem, do they? And why are you still on dial up?


No, I don't know of any that do. They all have WiFi and USB ports. Mine also has an Ethernet port. I am still on dial up because it is the cheapest ($11 per month) for internet access. I am now shopping for DSL service which is probably the second cheapest. I should have mentioned that I bought a USB dial up modem which claims to be Linux compatible. All of the posts on Linux forums say that it is tricky to do dial up on Ubuntu. I am looking for a version of Linux which is designed for dial up.


I believe that Puppy Linux has some programs that could help you connect via dial-up.



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13 Nov 2009, 6:35 pm

"Hello I'm a Mac, and I'ma computah stop all tha downloadin'" (Funny Fenster Film Joke's)


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13 Nov 2009, 9:08 pm

I miss my xp laptop. I never had hardly an issue with it.



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13 Nov 2009, 9:31 pm

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Upgrading operating systems does not work It's never worked.

Do yourself a giant favor. Backup your data, format the disk, install a clean OS and your apps, and restore your data.


That is what I wanted to do, but my Acer 5517 update disks will not autoboot and can only be run from inside the existing Vista. So, I have them running at the moment and I am hoping the "new copy of Windows" option I chose will actually be a clean install of 7 even though I could not format the disk and truly begin from scratch. As best I can tell, it looks like Acer is doing something similar to Compaq by putting the BIOS on the drive in order for anything to work at all.


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13 Nov 2009, 10:19 pm

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I thank you for the warning!

I just bought an inexpensive laptop that included a free Win7 upgrade, and the disk(s) should be here in another day or so. However, I tend to doubt the laptop is well-suited for anything more than the Vista already in it.

My favorite computer? My old Compaq with Win2000!

But, here I sit with a Dell and XP ... and MicroSoft says it would need more memory and a new video card to run Win7.


I have an eMachines T2080 with an AMD Athlon XP2000+ @1.6GHz with 1GBram and the video card is only 8MB since the onboard video jack broke, 7 booted fine for me.

I'm a PC, and Windows 7 is my fault. :D


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13 Nov 2009, 10:19 pm

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Rocky wrote:
Celtic_Frost wrote:
Rocky wrote:
glider18 wrote:
Thank you for the warning Willard. I have Vista (don't care for it that much), and I have been considering upgrading this Dell laptop to Windows 7---but I am not so sure after your experience. Like you, I feel Mac is a bit out of price range.

Leejopsepho---Like you, I tend to like the older windows computers. My oldest functioning computer is an E Machine from QVC with Windows 97. It fought its way through many virus attacks and hung on. My biggest problems have come with the newer Windows.

I think I will now just continue to prod along with Vista.


I was very surprised how little a basic Mac (I bought a Mac Mini) cost, once I looked into it. I always assumed they were all expensive. I have been so much happier with the Mac! No more malware! Lately I couldn't resist a Netbook bargain, and figured I would set it up with a dual boot so I could use Linux for the web. I was able to do this, but am still struggling to get dial up to work with it. The Mac is so much easier. It just works.


Netbooks do not come with a 56k modem, do they? And why are you still on dial up?


No, I don't know of any that do. They all have WiFi and USB ports. Mine also has an Ethernet port. I am still on dial up because it is the cheapest ($11 per month) for internet access. I am now shopping for DSL service which is probably the second cheapest. I should have mentioned that I bought a USB dial up modem which claims to be Linux compatible. All of the posts on Linux forums say that it is tricky to do dial up on Ubuntu. I am looking for a version of Linux which is designed for dial up.


I believe that Puppy Linux has some programs that could help you connect via dial-up.


Thanks! My research had already led me to Puppy Linux! I have not downloaded it yet. It is nice to get feedback on the subject. Have you tried Puppy?


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14 Nov 2009, 6:39 am

My computer came with a free upgrade to 7.

The disk came this week. I stuck it in and pressed start.

It upgraded my system. I have no complaints and everything is working as before except perhaps I have a few new features.



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14 Nov 2009, 6:50 am

Personally I don't see the point in paying for an upgrade from Vista to 7. I'll wait until I eventually buy a new computer with it pre-installed.

Then I'll have the customary nightmare attempt to install Linux on it as well - only to have to delete it again due to insurmountable hardware incompatibility problems or lack of drivers.


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14 Nov 2009, 5:30 pm

Microsoft all users to buy upgrades for high price, obviously for money :lol:
The cheapest Windows 7 is Home preminum, Basic or Starters, as i've seen on amazon or some other site, they selling it for under £100. :D
Then again, doubt its the legal operating system? :?


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14 Nov 2009, 10:36 pm

Rocky wrote:
Celtic_Frost wrote:
Rocky wrote:
Celtic_Frost wrote:
Rocky wrote:
glider18 wrote:
Thank you for the warning Willard. I have Vista (don't care for it that much), and I have been considering upgrading this Dell laptop to Windows 7---but I am not so sure after your experience. Like you, I feel Mac is a bit out of price range.

Leejopsepho---Like you, I tend to like the older windows computers. My oldest functioning computer is an E Machine from QVC with Windows 97. It fought its way through many virus attacks and hung on. My biggest problems have come with the newer Windows.

I think I will now just continue to prod along with Vista.


I was very surprised how little a basic Mac (I bought a Mac Mini) cost, once I looked into it. I always assumed they were all expensive. I have been so much happier with the Mac! No more malware! Lately I couldn't resist a Netbook bargain, and figured I would set it up with a dual boot so I could use Linux for the web. I was able to do this, but am still struggling to get dial up to work with it. The Mac is so much easier. It just works.


Netbooks do not come with a 56k modem, do they? And why are you still on dial up?


No, I don't know of any that do. They all have WiFi and USB ports. Mine also has an Ethernet port. I am still on dial up because it is the cheapest ($11 per month) for internet access. I am now shopping for DSL service which is probably the second cheapest. I should have mentioned that I bought a USB dial up modem which claims to be Linux compatible. All of the posts on Linux forums say that it is tricky to do dial up on Ubuntu. I am looking for a version of Linux which is designed for dial up.


I believe that Puppy Linux has some programs that could help you connect via dial-up.


Thanks! My research had already led me to Puppy Linux! I have not downloaded it yet. It is nice to get feedback on the subject. Have you tried Puppy?


Puppy Linux comes with a program called PupDial. It might detect your modem and help you connect to the Internet via dial-up. I can't try it out myself because I have no dial up modem at hand, but it may or may not work. It should tell you if it detects your modem or not.

When you boot into Puppy (it's a live CD that loads into your memory and you can save your sessions onto the CD or a flash drive), click the Menu button on the bottom left corner of your screen, go to Network>PupDial modem dialup...

Hope this helps!



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15 Nov 2009, 10:20 pm

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The cheapest Windows 7 is Home Premium ...


Well, here it is in the form of my free 32-bit upgrade that came along with this similarly inexpensive Acer notebook, and it is all working just fine!


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16 Nov 2009, 1:01 pm

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The cheapest Windows 7 is Home Premium ...


Well, here it is in the form of my free 32-bit upgrade that came along with this similarly inexpensive Acer notebook, and it is all working just fine!


Your luckier than me.... I didn't get a free upgrade to windows 7 with my laptop :( lol. But I really might consider trying it out :D


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16 Nov 2009, 8:36 pm

XP is the way....



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16 Nov 2009, 9:43 pm

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XP is the way....


Elaborate on that, please.