What is the true meaning of Christmas?

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shirochan
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20 Dec 2009, 12:28 pm

If "The Grinch Who Stole Christmas" is to be believed, the true meaning of Christmas is to stand around and sing.

To me, it's an excuse to have a party and to spoil people. Even though I don't believe Christ was born this time of year, the story still brings a smile to my face.



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20 Dec 2009, 3:09 pm

The Christmas is one of the most popular holidays. Most people have heard of it at least once, and children love it. The reason they love it, is however a sorrowing truth.

Every year, when a man ought to celebrate our savior, he instead celebrates the birth of Saint Nick; A man whom is believed by many to be a true saint in the first place.

Saint Nicholaus goes by many names; Kris Kringle, Jolly Old Man, Santa Claus, Red Tums, and Red Roofus to name a few, but the one i prefer most is "Profaner of Truth".

Please, believe not in Santa Claus, for your parents have created him as a lie. Believe instead in the Lord Jesus Christ, who i assure you is not a lie.

Santa is alleged to fly at supersonic speeds on a sleigh pulled by magical reindeer. Is this plausible? The Holy Bible states that the power of Supersonic flight belongs exclusively to the Lord. Only He can fly upwards mach the first; only he can create the sonic boom. The myth of Santa is just that - a myth.

Believe not that Santa is keeping a list and checkin it twice, for it is only up to Jesus to judge who is naughty and nice. And Jesus needs not check his list twice, for the Bible states that jesus never makes misstakes in accounting. The Lord´s mind is stronger than even Microsoft Excel.

It is Jesus, not Santa, who doth see you when you sleep, and it is Jesus, not Santa, who knows when you´re awake. Our Lord Jesus Christ knows if you have been bad or good, so be good before He Zaps thee with lightning.

Thou hadst better not pout, thou better not cry, unless thy tears are contrition for thy countless misdeeds. Jesus came to town two millenia ago.


SANTA DID NOT
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20 Dec 2009, 4:10 pm

Acacia wrote:
I grew up Catholic, and Christmas was a religious event first, a family event second, and a festive/commercial event third.

These days, the religious aspect is no longer applicable. It's thoroughly X-mas for me.
But I have an intense desire to be around family this year.
I think that as I am getting a little older, I'm coming to understand some of the truly important things in life, and I regret the fact that I'm so distant from most of my family.

And I still harbor some of the festive and commercial aspects... I love to decorate with lights and trees and garlands... and I enjoy giving and receiving gifts. Much as I am opposed to stupid pointless consumerism, I find a way to buy meaningful things for the people I care about as some kind of physical manifestation of my feelings for them. I can listen to Christmas music and enjoy the nostalgia, even though the lyrics are meaningless to me. I find satisfaction through some of the more ancient pagan nature rituals that surround this time of year.

I think that the traditional trappings of the American interpretation of Christmas are still useful for people, regardless of their persuasion:

Family, giving, care and understanding. Music and decoration. I can relate to that, even though I'm not christian, and I think the whole Santa thing is a crock.

What is the true meaning of Christmas to you??


That's a well thought out and balanced outlook you have.

To me it is first a religious, well, actually more spiritual, event, although I try to do it without the circus sideshow of "religion" and more with the personal faith aspect.

Then the family comes in. Here in life, outside of one's own faith, I see family as almost tied for first place: Jesus came here to offer restoration of man's relationship to God, and we'd better damn well treat our family the same way as he treats us.

Christmas is a time of restoration and renewal in my sight.
Which, to me, (and I'm pretty sure the Southern Baptist Convention, and even the Pope, ain't gonna agree with this!), makes it perfectly appropriate to have celebration on or around the Winter Solstice as that is when longer daylight begins and life enters into a cycle of increasing light which soon brings rebirth and renewal. Parallel to what Jesus does as I see it.

After 20+ years in retail I'm burned out on the materialistic aspect of Christmas.

Now that giving, be it things, or time, or effort, as a physical, 3-D, material symbol and sign of your love and appreciation of someone is a fine and commendable thing to do.

Thoughts on Santa Claus: ahh why not, let the young'ns enjoy it till they figure it out :lol:

What I wonder though, is are all those tall fat Santas true to canon?
And what is the standard for Santa Claus canon anyway?
(I'm pretty sure it ain't Tim Allen)
The Night Before Christmas poem mentions a "jolly old Elf" and "eight tiny reindeer" and a "miniature sleigh"
So how come mall Santas aren't 3 feet (1m, sort of) tall with pointy ears?
With reindeer the size of Beagles?

I mean, think about it, how many village hovel and bungalow roofs are gonna support 2+ tons of full-size reindeer? :shrug:

But, if they can fly, maybe they're anti-gravity reindeer?


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