Aspies and lying

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Aspies can lie, we can also speed, park opposite fire hydrants, swear and be horrible to our parents. In other words, we're human.

Vanilla_Slice

Any sane person is capable of interpreting things in a favorable way. Spin knows no distinction.

ruveyn

Mayer is a movie directory. "Adam" is a movie directed by Mayer. Adam, of course, is the lead role, and has Asperger's. The character is based on a real individual, but after all, it is a movie, and Mayer doesn't have Asperger's, so the entire film is essentially from NT perspective, and based only on a singe person with Asperger's.

I've seen it, and I think the film's portrayal of Asperger's is far too simplistic. it is a decent film though, in that it does at least bring some awareness of the issue to the general public. It's just too bad that a lot of people will probably come away with the idea that "that" is what Asperger's looks like. It simply isn't true though. We are all as different from one another as NT's are from each other. And that is a point the movie never addresses.

Same thing happened with Rain Man. Millions of folks came away from that film thinking that all Autisics are like Raymond. I saw an interview with Dustin Hoffman, where he explained how he came up with the traits he displayed. I think it was on Inside the Actor's Studio, but I can't remember for sure. What he said though, was that he pretty much "made it up" as he went along, with little to no prior knowledge of Autisitism and how it really affects people. When he did something the director liked, he just kept repeating it. His portrayal didn't come from intimate knowledge of Autistic traits at all. And that's from the horse's mouth.

I wouldn't say there are NO aspies that never lie though.

There probably are.

What I have a hard time accepting is that anyone, Aspie or not, is incapable of lying.

Aspies can learn anything we put our minds to, including how to lie.

I do agree though, that a great deal of us are probably not very good at it. In fact, I think the inverse is highly likely. Quite often, I think, we are accused of lying when we aren't lying at all. That, I think, stems from our usually innate lack of awareness that we aren't sending the right "signals" NT's look for that tell them we're being honest. Lack of eye contact is only one.

Looking away, down and to the left is supposed to be a typical cue law enforcement looks for when interviewing people. To them, it's a cue that dishonesty is at play. Yet I know Aspies who do that all the time when they're being perfectly honest.

I can lie. In fact, I lied allot as a child. My parents said I was quite good at it becuase I did it in the same monotone non-emotional voice that I always use. So they could never tell. I did it from such a young age. It is something I knew how to do. It is not something I picked up from watching NT people.

I hate lying and avoid it at all cost. Too much mental energy to expend, keeping track of all the lies. Life is too short.

I have some trouble with lying, although I am definitely capable of lying. Sometimes I can be good while other times I'm laughing the whole time. I feel really guilty about lying every time (and don't do it a lot), but it still happens once in awhile. I think it depends what it's about: playing an April Fool's Day joke or lying in a job interview. I think that almost everyone has a varying degree of lying capability: some can hardly lie while others can lie their way out of almost anything.

I can lie rather brilliantly!

Everyone lies. Most NTs lie through their assess all the time, for their own benefit or for what they themselves decide is better for others, for example they tell people lies to not hurt their feelings (which in the long term does more damage than just being honest IMO).

But Aspies do it too. We seem to be a little more sincere and honest (generally speaking), but we are by no means perfect.

I lie. NTs lie. Aspies lie.

I lie well, it's just that I hate it.

I find it hard to lie. I can do it, but it just doesn't compute in my brain very well. I tend to tell the truth and be damned rather than lie about anything. Similarly if someone asks me a question my truthful reply is usually straight out of my mouth before I've even asked myself why they are asking this question, or do I need to guard my reply and omit anything etc.

*Late as per normal.. Yay!*

TBh i think "Aspies cant lie" is something of an urban legend, The bluntness and literal mindedness are fairly key traits and i suspect the "story" is largely the same.

we're born and "Is, Is." as we(alot if not all) grow up we start to learn the usual lies, albeit very slowly, more slowly than our NT peers, till one day after years of trying to 'fit in' with the majority of the populous we can lie, cheat, steal. (not that we all go ahead and do so, just we learn to).

I think "cant lie" is an exaggeration, more apt might be "On average we're not naturally inclined or easily able to say 'Is, Isnt'."

I define Lying as "purposefully and knowingly providing false data", further refined by the apparent purpose of providing said data, if its amusement/entertainment then its okay (ficitonal writing) or an emergency situation in which the truth is NOT in someone best interest.

Like a few others, i find its too much effort trying to track the lies i could tell, so dont bother.
Are we saints? Ha!.. could we be, ya know possibly.

I can lie. If/when I do it, I find that it's probably something arbitrarily fantastical and I probably get amusement out of analyzing people's responses to the story/lie. I don't think I've ever told a very serious lie without admitting to the person later about the falsehood. My wife says I lie, but she can always tell when I'm doing it. My wife is Hispanic, and I had "insider" info that she had never dated a white guy before... so when we were introduced, I told her I was Sicilian. I guess, I said that out of fear of being rejected because I'm full-blown Scandinavian. She didn't find out my family is originally from Norway until we were on a roadtrip back home to my parents' place and I confessed. We've been married eight years now... and my AS (just recently discovered by us through counseling) has been wonderful for our relationship. .........wait, that last part's a lie!

I often used to lie to my parents about the day's events to avoid (or usually just postpone) getting into trouble. The lies were usually prepared in advance.
These days "what did you do today?" is a question I often have trouble answering off the top of my head either truthfully or untruthfully.

I'm super fantastic at lying. I lie about my sexuality every day.

I lie on occassion when it's something insignificant, and I'm good at lying. I lied to my dad about something and even made a very credible story to back up my claim. I held this lie for about a year and a half and then my brother told him the truth.

Im not sure if in bad at it because I dont remember the last time I lyed, but I choose not to lie