I'm experiencing a lot of deja vu

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18 Aug 2010, 4:03 am

As I understand it psychic phenomena become possible with the suspension of disbelief. Doubt can prevent or suppress results. For schizophrenics, the boundaries between reality, imagination, fiction and memory can become blurred to the extent that it can be next to impossible to believe in anything as truly real or imaginary. That would explain why schizophrenics are more likely to experience psychic phenomena.

If you consider the nature of these phenomena, that they somehow transcend time and space, and yet are somehow limited by doubt, then it is no wonder that it is impossible to confirm their existence scientifically. If anyone is aware of the experiment and has any doubt, then there is no possible way to separate them from the experiment, and stop them from affecting the outcome. The doubt itself is transferred into the experiment regardless of distance.


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18 Aug 2010, 11:58 am

I've been getting it a lot, lately. I'll be doing something and I remember doing it, before.


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18 Aug 2010, 1:15 pm

hey rebel....that's called 'being lost in the 60's'.



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18 Aug 2010, 1:22 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2eUopy9sd8[/youtube]



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18 Aug 2010, 5:03 pm

polarity wrote:
As I understand it psychic phenomena become possible with the suspension of disbelief.

I am a great believer in the suspension of disbelief. :)

I mean it seriously though. Rather than needing to believe in something in order to contemplate it, suspending disbelief gives the potential to consider 'what ifs' about any aspect of life, without there being a personal stake in the outcome. It is perhaps the state of mind needed to be able to consider all sides of a question or viewpoint.

"I don't necessarily believe it, but for the time being I will seriously contemplate 'x' as being true, in order to let my mind play with the idea, and see where it leads."

I think it's a way of using mindfulness to consider ideas, because you have "let go of the outcome", which really means that you don't attach personal emotions to the thoughts.

For example, if you experience deja vu, one fact is that you have experienced something. The explanation for that something doesn't negate the experience. If it appears unusual, it is, regardless of whether the cause has a rational explanation or not.

All kinds of psychic phenomena could be explained as artefacts of the purely physical mind, one brain locked in one skull. For example:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_for_the_future

Or they could be explained as spiritual external phenomena. A wider or higher consciousness than just one mind. eg.
http://www.memoryofthefuture.net/

Or they could turn out to be a mix of the two, and rather more complicated than any previous ideas have considered.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_entanglement

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Entanglement has many applications in quantum information theory. With the aid of entanglement, otherwise impossible tasks may be achieved. Among the best known applications of entanglement are superdense coding, quantum teleportation, information exchanges through time, and the creation of a quantum computer.


Which gives this idea which I very briefly came across some time last year (I don't have any details):

In your future, your mind will have memories of events which have not yet happened.
Therefore rather than psychic experience coming from 'outside', it does come from 'inside', but from inside the memory of your future self, perhaps by way of quantum processes. As in 'spooky action at a distance', where the distance is from your own future self.

Whether it's possible I don't know, but I can suspend disbelief, and as a theory I rather like it, because it gives one potential explanation for a lot of different kinds of experiences, including 'gut feeling', and it was definitely an idea I hadn't encountered before.



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19 Aug 2010, 12:38 am

There is a problem with the one eye processing stuff faster then the other being the reason for my ability to dream things before they happen and such. I can only see out of one eye. :D I only skimmed though, so excuse my need to post without RTFM-styling it first.

Feeling quite exhausted and overwhelmed here.

Interesting stuff on the quantum mechanics. I'm into spirituality and looking at these scientifically too. I feel that if my theory is debunked by the fact that I experienced my boyfriend's accident without ever being there 3 months before it happened. I was never there, because it was on his lunch break with a co-worker. I was capable of describing everyone involved in the accident too, to some degree. Some of them being names of the people, but the people who caused it, I was quite capable of pinning them down. I even knew the car type, everything. Very strange.

I'm going to work hard on this dreaming thing, so I can have some frickin' solid proof already. I have symbolic dreams most of the time that include future people and events, but usually when bad stuff is about to happen, It's all legit and reality based, non-symbolic.


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19 Aug 2010, 5:00 am

ladyrain wrote:
'spooky action at a distance'


That's how my last girlfriend described our relationship. BOOM BOOM!

But seriously, the quantum thing is very interesting, and could explain some of the unexplained phenomena of the universe.

I have an idea that 'time' has already all 'happened', it's just that for some reason humans are only capable of 'seeing' a little bit of it at a time, normally in a linear sequence going forwards. I could imagine that somehow the normal 'filter' or 'inhibitor' or whatever that acts as blinkers for the human perception of time could malfunction and bring us perceptions from other parts of time.


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19 Aug 2010, 5:03 am

Friskeygirl wrote:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2eUopy9sd8[/youtube]


I get a feeling that I've seen that before...


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