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16 Nov 2010, 9:26 am

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16 Nov 2010, 11:47 am

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16 Nov 2010, 12:44 pm

SuperApsie wrote:
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Old lady wants to cross the street :salut:
Have to clean the house :salut:
... at least once a week :cry:
Friends want to go there :salut:
Shake hand when you meet someone :salut:
Do some studies :salut:
[...]


I don't get this (apologies if it's something really obvious) :oops:


I extrapolated what I think Moog wanted to say: we are defined by the sum of our "duties" and "contextual reactions" rather than a person in full control of our will


That's an interesting theory. I may be jumping to conclusions but do you then believe in determinism - maybe not in the pure scientific sense of the word but in terms of a limit to each individuals free will and control over their fate?



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16 Nov 2010, 12:46 pm

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I'm merely the sum of all my parts. Like a television, only more complicated. I'm bits and pieces of every person I've ever met.


I understand what you mean about being bits and pieces of people you meet, I've also found that I've selected traits that I've seen in others that I think go down well with other people and tried to incorporate them into my personality.



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16 Nov 2010, 1:34 pm

Bunneth wrote:
SuperApsie wrote:
Bunneth wrote:
SuperApsie wrote:

Old lady wants to cross the street :salut:
Have to clean the house :salut:
... at least once a week :cry:
Friends want to go there :salut:
Shake hand when you meet someone :salut:
Do some studies :salut:
[...]


I don't get this (apologies if it's something really obvious) :oops:


I extrapolated what I think Moog wanted to say: we are defined by the sum of our "duties" and "contextual reactions" rather than a person in full control of our will


That's an interesting theory. I may be jumping to conclusions but do you then believe in determinism - maybe not in the pure scientific sense of the word but in terms of a limit to each individuals free will and control over their fate?


And you jump to the right place. Believing is determinism is not the right way of saying it though. To me, everything is causal or you believe in something/somebody else that is foreign to the causal process and interfere upon it as it please.

But I won't say that realizing the deterministic nature of everything leads to the feeling of lack of our control. It's for the simple reason we can't ever grasp the whole causality at once, never will, and we will always keep this genuine illusion of free will and randomness because of this. That's why I don't see the fate as the cause for that behavior.

I see it as a passive behavior in life, because if we act we think that either we'll do a mistake (aspie reaction in front of a world that we naturally not understand) or we won't be able to do enough (perfectionism, idealism). It is something I feel too, but this alone won't define me completely, and I think Moog would agree.


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16 Nov 2010, 1:37 pm

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16 Nov 2010, 1:46 pm

Mwoah.

I dont often define myself, but when i do i define myself by my traits and interests mostly. I'm not much about the possession, just the practical man, pets and house stuff.

I know however that how i define myself is not who i really am, its just a small part. In general, i see myself as mere consciousness, and nothing else. All else is transitional and with that can never really define "me". Who i am would change from moment to moment.

So i generally just tell people what they want to hear.



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16 Nov 2010, 1:49 pm

SuperApsie wrote:
Bunneth wrote:
SuperApsie wrote:
Bunneth wrote:
SuperApsie wrote:

That's an interesting theory. I may be jumping to conclusions but do you then believe in determinism - maybe not in the pure scientific sense of the word but in terms of a limit to each individuals free will and control over their fate?


And you jump to the right place. Believing is determinism is not the right way of saying it though. To me, everything is causal or you believe in something/somebody else that is foreign to the causal process and interfere upon it as it please.

But I won't say that realizing the deterministic nature of everything leads to the feeling of lack of our control. It's for the simple reason we can't ever grasp the whole causality at once, never will, and we will always keep this genuine illusion of free will and randomness because of this. That's why I don't see the fate as the cause for that behavior.

I see it as a passive behavior in life, because if we act we think that either we'll do a mistake (aspie reaction in front of a world that we naturally not understand) or we won't be able to do enough (perfectionism, idealism). It is something I feel too, but this alone won't define me completely, and I think Moog would agree.


Determinism is something that I struggle to come to terms with. My ego goes completely into reactionary mode at the thought of it, as I like to think that all my decisions come from my and receive barely any influence from the outside.

The rational part of my brain though understands that everything in the universe has an effect on everything else and therefore I must also therefore be effected by everything around me both in space and time. The more I read about determinism the more it makes sense, although I don't attach any form of religious or spiritual significance to it.

My ego still hates it though. To it, reading about determinism is like reading the user manual for the Total Perspective Vortex.



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16 Nov 2010, 2:40 pm

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Determinism is something that I struggle to come to terms with. My ego goes completely into reactionary mode at the thought of it, as I like to think that all my decisions come from my and receive barely any influence from the outside.

The rational part of my brain though understands that everything in the universe has an effect on everything else and therefore I must also therefore be effected by everything around me both in space and time. The more I read about determinism the more it makes sense, although I don't attach any form of religious or spiritual significance to it.

My ego still hates it though. To it, reading about determinism is like reading the user manual for the Total Perspective Vortex.


You should be aware of it, not anthropomorphizing it. Determinism is all or nothing: that dust that is going to make you sneeze tomorrow will change your life, it counts as much as the rest and you can't be aware that. Your Ego might not be in complete control and only thinking: "could I react to this in a way I have never thought before" increase your choices by a lot even if your choice is, in fact, predetermined as my quote is.


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16 Nov 2010, 3:59 pm

SuperApsie wrote:
Bunneth wrote:
Determinism is something that I struggle to come to terms with. My ego goes completely into reactionary mode at the thought of it, as I like to think that all my decisions come from my and receive barely any influence from the outside.

The rational part of my brain though understands that everything in the universe has an effect on everything else and therefore I must also therefore be effected by everything around me both in space and time. The more I read about determinism the more it makes sense, although I don't attach any form of religious or spiritual significance to it.

My ego still hates it though. To it, reading about determinism is like reading the user manual for the Total Perspective Vortex.


You should be aware of it, not anthropomorphizing it. Determinism is all or nothing: that dust that is going to make you sneeze tomorrow will change your life, it counts as much as the rest and you can't be aware that. Your Ego might not be in complete control and only thinking: "could I react to this in a way I have never thought before" increase your choices by a lot even if your choice is, in fact, predetermined as my quote is.


Anthropomorphize things is the default option that we as humans use when we're trying to comprehend something so beyond our levels of comprehension that the only way we can possibly get our heads around it is to make it into something truly familiar to us; a version of ourselves. That said, it's not the final step but rather the first and I think once you recognise this and accept it, you can progress on into interpretations which are probably more obscure/abstruse to us initially but scientifically more accurate.

My main problem is that I always hit an event horizon with maths/science where I just can't process it anymore and have to walk away. I just don't have a scientific mind so I have to try and find the most clear-cut, basic explanations I can, rather than the more comprehensive ones.



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19 Nov 2010, 9:13 am

I am me, most of the time, except when it was a me from before, or will be a me from the future.

I don't do well with these sorts of questions. I can't even answer "What's your name?" most of the time.


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19 Nov 2010, 12:34 pm

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20 Nov 2010, 8:33 pm

What defines me?
I'm pretty "wacky" and bohemian,artistic,very intuitive and sensitive especially to animals,children and nature...
I am a happy person but not happy where I am. I'm happiest on mountains, with my fairies.They certainly do exist.



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20 Nov 2010, 8:48 pm

Hey, this is like the first question in every other job interview I've had:

"Tell me about yourself."


[long, uncertain silence]



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20 Nov 2010, 9:10 pm

I've said it too many times. I'm still proud of it. :)


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22 Nov 2010, 10:59 am

menintights wrote:
Hey, this is like the first question in every other job interview I've had:

"Tell me about yourself."


[long, uncertain silence]


Hey, it beats "what present would you buy me?" which I got asked once in an interview. Aside from the fact I'd only been speaking to the guy for about 10 minutes, what kind of interview question is that anyway?