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Is Aldi a less evil source of groceries than Wal-Mart?
Yes! 27%  27%  [ 4 ]
No! 20%  20%  [ 3 ]
Oh look, SHEEP! ...I mean DEATHCLAWS!! !! AAARRRRGGGHHH, MY RIBCAGE!! ! 53%  53%  [ 8 ]
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18 Feb 2011, 12:24 pm

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States have sued Wal-Mart because their employees create an undue burden on the Medicare system—meaning they are below the poverty line and have no medical coverage.
Wal-Mart also encourages near slave labor in emerging countries and enriches and empowers the murders and thugs that run China…
Wal-Mart never gets my money if I have an alternative…

They offer health insurance if you've been there a year & are full-time. Blue-Cross/Blue-Shield of Alabama is what I had.


Yeah, but just look at your own experience... How many people are stuck in 33hr/wk hell?
Those are the people bankrupting Maryland's Medicare system. Those are the people Wal-Mart is really screwing... along with the tax payers of Maryland and every other state they do business in.

A lot of the people at my store were full-time after being there a year at least the ones overnight anyways. Lots of places won't offer health insurance till you've been there 6months anyways even if you start at full-time.
I don't get what that has to do with Medicare


Yeah, that was a typo, I meant Medicaid, which is for anyone. Here's a study that shows Wal-Mart drives up Medicaid spending and depresses wages everywhere it operates... link

From the same news source:
Supports the idea that Wal-Mart keeps people part-time in order to shift medical cost from them and on to the public sector.

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Roll Call Examines Effect of Wal-Mart Memo
In related news, Roll Call on Monday examined how an internal memo that recommended Wal-Mart hire more part-time employees and discourage unhealthy job applicants to help reduce health care costs "has given a jolt to anti-Wal-Mart activists' Capitol Hill agenda and forced Wal-Mart to do damage control in Washington, D.C., and around the country." Chris Kofinis, communications director for Wake Up Wal-Mart, said, "In an ironic way, Wal-Mart has given strength to the importance of this movement. A growing number of American people realize that this needs to be looked at from a political and legislative standpoint." Kofinis said that the memo "raises serious issues" related to the Americans With Disabilities Act. However, Susan Chambers -- Wal-Mart executive vice president of benefits and author of the memo -- said, "Nothing could be further from the truth," adding, "We are the single largest employer of people with disabilities" (Ackley, Roll Call, 11/7).


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18 Feb 2011, 1:01 pm

For anyone interested in Wal-Mart's "evil" status, there's a documentary here in the subject.



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18 Feb 2011, 1:02 pm

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I'm looking for a less morally repugnant source of discount groceries...

Please leave thoughtful commentary below. Thanks.
Is Aldi the same as Aldo's?


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18 Feb 2011, 1:44 pm

Taupey wrote:
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I'm looking for a less morally repugnant source of discount groceries...

Please leave thoughtful commentary below. Thanks.
Is Aldi the same as Aldo's?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldi

Aldi is a string of no-frills grocery stores based in germany. They specialize in generic store brand goods to keep prices down...


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18 Feb 2011, 4:08 pm

GoonSquad wrote:
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I'm looking for a less morally repugnant source of discount groceries...

Please leave thoughtful commentary below. Thanks.
Is Aldi the same as Aldo's?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldi

Aldi is a string of no-frills grocery stores based in germany. They specialize in generic store brand goods to keep prices down...
Thanks for telling me. No I don't usually buy generic store brand goods because I always notice the quality isn't as good, they green beans have more stems inclosed and strange brown spots on them, that kind of thing.

I asked because I am having some of my gorceries shipped to me from AULSuperstores but it's called Aldo's.

I don't really like to shop in Walmart stores because you always have to wait forever to check-out, so I don't shop too often there but I did buy seven pair of black sweat pants to sleep in from their website the other day. That's something I can wait for.

It's difficult to find anyone to help you at Walmart too when you want to buy something on the top shelf or know where something is, if they have anymore in the back. They cut back the prices of junk made in China and then they cut back on the number of employees that they should have to run their stores properly. I really miss the locally owned stores and shops that were so abundant when I was a child. I could walk in without any money and buy what my mother or grandmother sent me to get, they knew my family was good for it and that included shopping for clothes and shoes. They gave better service and treated you like you mattered to them because you did. Walmart has never done that.

When I was a child, you could buy a loaf of bread and a gallon of milk both for a $1.00. We also ate seasonally so we didn't have so much fresh produce availible year round like it is now.

I don't know about Aldi's but I believe Walmart is what you're looking for.

Walmart = The Devil


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18 Feb 2011, 4:28 pm

Wegmans is the greatest grocery store in the history of mankind. It's only a matter of time before they are everywhere.



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18 Feb 2011, 5:51 pm

People who are working minimum wage at 32 hours a week are making least one thousand a month before taxes. People are not eligible for Medicaid if they are making that much. When I was approved for Social Security Disability; Medicaid dropped me because my income was to high at $795 a month even thou I was not eligible for Medicare or any other health insurance at the time.
If a person is on SSI before they start working & they still have their disabilities; their income will NOT affect their Medicaid. I was on SSI before I started working & by the time I left I was making $8.60 an hour working 55hours a week making leat $500 a week before taxes & deductions & I still had my Medicaid coverage.

WalMart is so big that they've become a target for blame. Lots of people like to point their finger at WalMart because they are so well known but there's lots of other stores that have lots of problems as well. WalMart get the attention because they are so big. Also some of the problems are because of the laws & government regulation of businesses like what I said in my 1st post about the minorities; Affirmative Action is the blame for that because WalMart could of ended up in legal trouble for firing em or forcing em to work because some were quick to threaten with legal action & going to the media. The rezone WalMart's employees are paid so low is because they can; the minimum wage needs to be higher. WalMart would offer health insurance to all their employees if they were required to but I personally think that the government should fund the docs/clinics/hospitals directly so health insurance would not be needed at all. I'm NOT saying that I think WalMart is a great company to work for but I do NOT think that WalMart is solely to blame.; the business regulations need to be changed


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18 Feb 2011, 6:21 pm

^^^

Here's what it comes down to... If the people running Wal-Mart had any moral integrity, they would provide affordable health coverage and pay their employees a living wage. The fact that they won't proves that Hobbes was right, people are selfish, greedy scumbags and the function of government is to protect society from greedy, sleazy individuals...

It's a pretty sad world when the biggest, most profitable company in the world won't do the right thing simply because it is the right thing to do. :cry:


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18 Feb 2011, 6:47 pm

^^^ WalMart got to be as big as they are because they don't care. Businesses get rewarded for screwing others over & not caring. Lots of people shop at WalMart. If people would stop shopping there instead of complaining about how bad they are; WalMart would not be as big. My point is that it's not entirely WalMart that's to blame, the government legislation, the shoppers & the managers who work there all play a part


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19 Feb 2011, 6:36 pm

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Here's what it comes down to... If the people running Wal-Mart had any moral integrity, they would provide affordable health coverage and pay their employees a living wage. The fact that they won't proves that Hobbes was right, people are selfish, greedy scumbags and the function of government is to protect society from greedy, sleazy individuals...

It's a pretty sad world when the biggest, most profitable company in the world won't do the right thing simply because it is the right thing to do. :cry:


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I saw the documentary High Cost of Low Prices, and some of the stuff Walmart does is just disturbing. The Walton family (especially after Sam died) and current leadership are just greedy disgusting human beings. I try not to shop there all that much.

Walmart might be one of the most evil corporations out there. And unfortunately government is bending over backwards to protect them and other evil corporations rather than breaking them up and stopping the savagery. Them, Koch Industries, Massey Energy, and every major oil company just to name a few.



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19 Feb 2011, 9:59 pm

Aldi Australia try to keep their costs down but they don't screw their staff .

General store staff get (last I heard) $22 an hour plus penalty allowances and overtime.
If you were wondering, an Australian dollar is worth the same as an American dollar.



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20 Feb 2011, 5:55 am

Wombat wrote:
Aldi Australia try to keep their costs down but they don't screw their staff .

General store staff get (last I heard) $22 an hour plus penalty allowances and overtime.
If you were wondering, an Australian dollar is worth the same as an American dollar.


Interesting. Here a cashier at Aldis is @ 11. This a small town just big enough to have one. I'd bet in the big city it would be commensurate to the local wages, but never 22.

I don't like going to Walmart too much, but I do mostly buy my vehicle oil there in bulk for one year's worth of oil changes. It seems you have to wait forever for store staff to help you. E.g., one time buying paint, and I counted 15 minutes for the lady just to show up at the counter, and another 15 to 20 minutes to mix the paint wrong; another 15 to 20 for her to call someone over who could figure out how to program the mix computer.
Don't dare to call the store about anything because the phone will literally ring indefinitely.

If you park there there is a risk of vehicle damage. We've been dinged a many. It's to the point where you say, " I'm parking a long way off and walking."



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20 Feb 2011, 6:48 am

I think Aldi pays like 12 bucks an hour over here, which is good for a cashier in retail. Saw that in the newspaper when they opened a store nearby anyway.

Most places only want to pay like 8-9 an hour, something close to minimum wage.



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12 Jul 2012, 7:18 am

I couln't comment on Wal Mart as we do not have them in England, however when I have been to the states; wall mart has everything I need and its sooo cheap.

Aldi however I will never shop their again, went for an interview and was invited to a 4 hour assessment (basically working); I thought about it 4 hours on average would earn over £20. So my brother in law spoke to the Aldi manger friend of the family, turns out they were looking for a male to work the stock room mainly, he said there was an even number of males and females interviewed to make it LOOK fair. However he had alreay promised the job to his friend Richard who worked at The Co op ( anomther local store). So they continued to invite all eight potential to a work assessment two people a day, for 4 hours unpaid! Knowing which one was going to get the position.

Now I wanted to see whether Aldi would really break the law, and went to the work trial, obviously did not get the job; howevre guess who did..YES RICHARD. And the other seven were used as free slave labour for 4 hours a pop, total 8 hours per day of slavery. 4 days of free work, they did not have a single employee on the floor or in the stock room that week, as they hadd given them annual leave.

While I used to like the prices at Aldi, the quality has never been brilliant, yes the pay is good £6-8ph when you start, hence why I applied; however I have since found out it does not go up much after management level. Wall Mart do actually have training opportunities and you can work abroad, our version of Wall Mart is ASDA, however they employ them just out of school, then they can pay them less; 21yrs + is more pay ASDA and Tesco are trying to avoid thid where possible and employ younger. I dont know if this works the same in the US.

But to here this German penny pinching store ALDI, carries out slave labour in England and breaks the law, I am assumig they will go to any length to get what they want to save a buck! Im sticking to ASDA(Wall Mart)



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12 Jul 2012, 7:25 am

Wombat wrote:
Aldi Australia try to keep their costs down but they don't screw their staff .

General store staff get (last I heard) $22 an hour plus penalty allowances and overtime.
If you were wondering, an Australian dollar is worth the same as an American dollar.


Aldi staff earn over $4/hr more than me!! !?? 8O



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12 Jul 2012, 8:44 am

I never realized Aldi was in so many other countries! But to answer the OP's question, it wouldn't give you much more "morality" as it is a big chain of stores just like Walmart. You could look into local food markets and stores for your food. But non food related items will come at quite the premium in most cases, if you do all your shopping at small stores.