Last night I saw three UFO's

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08 May 2011, 12:39 am

oh yeah

"What makes you think that 'it' is not from Earth? "

1. There are no natural ways of explaining weather balloons or flares being able to stop on a dime, then change direction and then zoom out of sight.

2. If these are indeed some kind of secret US spacecraft or project then we are in some deep sh*t....our government is hella shady and is violating MANY MANY international airspace laws...the .grounds for war really. Maybe its not the USA, but it doesnt matter that nation is committing a litany of crimes.

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08 May 2011, 12:48 am

Never posit anything beyond what the available evidence will support. Assumptions, beliefs, opinions, suspicions, and testimonies are not evidence. You have not stated the objects' exact distance from your position, nor have you stated how you determined their positions and velocities.

Stealth helicopters; they're relatively silent, they can hover for long periods of time, and they can accelerate rapidly. That's the simplest explanation.

Extra-terrestrial intelligence requires more assumptions than what your subjective, alcohol-influenced testimony will support.

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08 May 2011, 1:06 am

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Stealth helicopters violates your own standard of evidence. Almost everything about stealth helicopters is is classified except the fact that the technology has been experimented with, and also doesn't explain why the military would needlessly draw attention to classified technology in the skies over a major city.

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08 May 2011, 1:13 am

Fnord wrote:

they were roughly maybe 10 miles east of Spencers Butte in Oregon. Looking off into the horizon the three lights were a little higher than the halfway point from the ground and the sky in the distance. Also I know what kind of movements conventional planes and helicopters make...neither can zoom out of visible sight in the blink of an eye, nor can they make sharp linear turns and adjustments to their direction. Balloons do not move fast, nor do they stay stationary. Flares just drop once they have been shot....I grew up seeing US Navy planes, YF -22 Raptors , F-16s, Japanese Zeros, Army planes, air force planes and helicopters because of Pearl Harbor and the huge military presence there... didnt remind me of anything ive seen all my life growing up including military craft at night.

and again, I would like to see a scientific study of how much 12 oz of 5% alcohol beer can impair a 5'9 185lb man whos in the prime college drinking days...or anyone for that matter. its not a hallucinegen and unless I am an alcoholic who just quit I dont think id 'see things' . What I saw was not substance induced or influenced.

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08 May 2011, 8:38 am

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Last night three friends of mine and I went up Spencer's Butte here in Eugene, Oregon. We brought beer and a grill and were gonna have a cook out in the elements. I was about to crack my second beer when my friend brought my attention to three orangish lights in the sky. I'm not sure how long they were there for but these lights stayed stationary somewhere over the east of Eugene (Ithink it was east) for 30 minuetes before making some erratic zig zag motion and speeding off. They were in a triangular formation so it could have actually been one big thing with lights on each of the points. i dont know. It was way faster than at a jet plane and jet planes cannot make sharp zig zag cuts like those lights we saw. It was weird.

It's eerie because I had two buddies who were first and second year foreign students at my university claim they have seen UFO's in their countries as well (China and Norway). My Norweigian friend said he didn't see any UFO's flying around but he witnessed a huge moving green spiral in the sky a few years back. My Chinese buddy said there was straight up a fleet of UFO's of the skies of norther China wher hes from....I was skeptic but i saw it with my own eyes so now im even more curious.... any of you guys seen something like that before?

I saw something similar before. I saw three, orange lights in orange formation over the country side. The thing is, it's a mistaken attribution of causation to say "aliens gone did it!!". How do you know it wasn't one of a million other possibilities; Chinese lanterns, astrological phenomena, military aircraft....? You might say, "nah, unlikely", but its hardly more unlikely than little green men flying around Oregon.

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08 May 2011, 8:49 am

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Fnord wrote:

I never said that it was the right answer, just the one best supported by the available 'evidence' (the dubious testimony of one person who also admitted to having been drinking at the time).

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30 Aug 2011, 6:24 pm

Sorry I'm so late to the game on this post. Wondering if you were able to catch the History Channel's documentary titled "Secret Access: UFOs on the Record". I'll attach a link here where you can watch it in its entirety in 6 parts here.

I found it interesting. I watched this after hearing a few amazing interviews on NPR a few weeks ago on a show called "Snap Judgment". I was particularly intrigued by the story regarding cows near Roswell. You can find those here.

Not to overwhelm you, but according to MUFON (Mutual UFO Network) sightings have risen by 67% in the last 3 years. I'm not a UFO junkie, in fact, I've shunned the subject since it has always been my mom's special interest which made me hate it, but I'm becoming curious since the sighting in Jerusalem and Phoenix, AZ.

Thanks for posting. :0)

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30 Aug 2011, 6:29 pm

Also to the people who just think UFO's means aliens then they need to understand the word. The word UFO means something that is unidentifiable. It could be a secret fighter or aliens.

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30 Aug 2011, 6:45 pm

I just built a UFO.

On my game.

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30 Aug 2011, 6:46 pm

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17 Sep 2011, 8:49 am

i am 99.9% sure that there are extra terrestrial's out there and i know that there are abductions going on all the time.

i strongly believe this and would pay a lot to get access to are 51.

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13 Sep 2012, 5:23 pm

Fnord wrote:

tangomike wrote:

i dont know where your getting those question from...theres noway anybody could answer those questions.

Then why assume that an extraterrestrial intelligence was involved at all?

Isn't it enough to admire the pretty lights in the sky without also having to imagine little green men behind them?

I have read about UFOs since 1966. I have been convinced of the ETH, and then a sceptic. Recently I have been watching videos of Stanton Friedman discussing the subject, and I think I'm a believer again. Contrary to what you might think, there are reports of UFOs appearing on radar, being seen by airline pilots, and in at least one famous case, seen by a fighter pilot. They don't just show themselves to those who are drinking beer.
(The one I saw was when I was too young to drink beer!!)

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13 Sep 2012, 7:46 pm

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13 Sep 2012, 8:01 pm

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Why is it that the consumption of alcohol always seems to be a pre-requisite for UFO sightings?

He was in Eugene. All the crazy Oregonians live there.

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13 Sep 2012, 11:18 pm

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Zombie Thread.

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