"Chavs"

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I'd add somewhere like Larne to that list.

Americans: have a look at "Jeremy Kyle" on YouTube to see what we're getting at. These are people with almost unintelligible speech.

The Gorbals as Ralph Glasser described them in his auto-biography no longer really exist as they were demolished.

Hey leave the scousers out of this

We're talking about the sort of people who steal your sandwiches from right under your nose at the airport and then when you find them rooting through your bag, accuse you of having a mental illness.

Sounds like my experiance at Liverpool Limestreet

no

The barriers are up psychologically, though. Plus there's a general self destructiveness about the place because there are no jobs. Worse than Manchester/Liverpool no jobs - it's like a British version of one of those towns in Michigan that produces left wing film makers. It manages to be more depressing than the weird, backward parts of North and East Manchester because it's geographically on a freezing cold hill with bad transport links.

Parts of Oldham are nice, though.

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Such as the roads that take you out of it

I live in the northeast and there are alot of chavs here, you get used to them after a while but in the past I've had nasty nasty run ins with them which resulted in various injuries.

an injury? such as what? Dented Pride? Impeded job prospects? Infected with a general stenge of mass inbreeeding? Oral thrush? Herpes? Gonhorea (cha cha char!)

Broken nose, black eyes and broken wrist. 10 of them jumped me and stomped on my face. Its NOT funny.

You had the time in the midst of being in mortal danger to count how many of them there were?

I'd of concentrated on running away myself.

I did run away from them. The same 10 lads were terrorising me at school. They caught up with me.

i live in a housing estate in w. london and im not sure there are any 'chavs' here at all. There are other working class stereotypes like boy-racers and 'staffy' dogs, and young people congregating outside shops but id have trouble pointing anyone out and saying 'theres a chav'. Is it must be a peculiarly white subculture that doesnt occur in the more multicultural areas?

I know what you mean. I'd struggle to actually find a 'chav' in Moss Side.

Plenty of scallies in the whiter parts of North Manchester, though. You do also get 'chavs' where there are different cultures but a really obvious divide between them, like in Oldham.

Bit like Ned's they don't exist outside of scotland.

The phrase "townie" has long fallen out of fashion. I remember that being used to describe unemployed people who lurked about town centres where I lived drinking cheap bottles of white cider, smoking and young teenage mothers with illegitimate children in prams. Clearly us southern fairy's can't hang onto our derogatory language for people less fortunate then ourselves. So we must adopt northern ones instead

Lay traps along your path of escape next time.

No. A while ago the then ruling party sold off the majority of government owned housing to the then tenants. This had both negative and positive long term effects. Mostly negative, once people realised they could subsequently sell houses on for a big profit (they'd been sold them cheaply to increase home ownership... the road to hell, huh?), buy-to-let, or buy up large numbers of houses; ultimately it led to wealth redistribution towards landlords and helped kick off the house-price upward spiral, which was uniformly portrayed as a good thing by the press until the inevitable crash. Now there's a shortage of social housing, private landlords own old council houses and have raised their rents excessively, and the government pays people who often don't deserve it silly amounts of money to pay their rent, which goes straight to the landlords. Who continue to raise the rent, so the government raises the amount of money it pays in housing benefit, so the landlords raise the rent a bit more. So instead of the government controlling social housing they're held hostage by private landlords and We the famous Taxpayer foot the bill. All good stuff.
Oh, yeah, and this being a small island and already overcrowded (nearly an order of magnitude higher than the States, or twice as much as neighbouring France), there's not a lot of space to build new homes, so when they do get built they're tending to get built on flood plains and other stupid s**t like that.

As people said, Moss Side ain't so bad. Longsight is more of a dive. When I worked at the MRI (hospital roughly between the two) some years ago there was a steady stream of gangstohs getting themselves shot but it was, I dunno, one every few weeks, so pretty tame by the standards of civilised places.



No, there are not. I work in an ex-mining town which usually ranks very high for deprivation (thanks, Maggie.) Unemployment is high, there are many people on benefits and yes, there are families who haven't worked for a generation or two and should be run off to the prisons™ and workhouses™, but they aren't anything like being a majority.