Joined: 14 Aug 2008 Age: 52 Gender: Male Posts: 12,003 Location: australia
07 Jul 2011, 12:20 pm
if there is no one to "see" that something is beautiful, is it "beautiful"?
is there a universal beauty that exists without any life in the universe to see it?
is all "beauty" contained within the eye of the beholder, or is there a concrete definition of beauty that is can be present in the universe without any consciousness being aware of it's existence?
"beauty" is entirely "subjective", and therefore it does not exist where it is not perceived, and that goes on to mean that "beauty" is truly in the "eye" (conceptual realm of possibility) of what beholds it.
Joined: 30 Aug 2008 Age: 41 Gender: Female Posts: 5,682 Location: Europe
07 Jul 2011, 12:32 pm
pree10shun wrote:
anna-banana wrote:
EmmaUK12 wrote:
An animal that's just been born. Well not straight away after they've been cleaned.
I second this. although I'd exclude human infants as they are truly hideous.
How are human infants any different than any new born animals? They are both whiny and needy if you ask me
yes but we're talking esthetics. human babies are beautiful to their mothers, but objectively speaking they are grotesque-looking and unpleasant to the eye.
Joined: 14 Aug 2008 Age: 52 Gender: Male Posts: 12,003 Location: australia
07 Jul 2011, 12:49 pm
the most utterly beautiful thing that exists in my mind is the encountering of true innocence.
there are some little birds (australian miners) that have control over my heart, and if they had that control taken away from them i would be very sad. i watch the little birds (who trust me) and i am so light and happy to watch what matters to them, and they fly very close to my body because i think they love me in some sort of way.
they are utterly innocent and they are welcome to all the love i have. i do not know how much love i have, but i know i love my little visiting birds fully and finally.
the fact that so many humans can not see equality between themselves and animals is not surprising to me.
humans are like shaved savage apes mostly (in my opinion).
i will unlikely address any reply so do not bother.
Joined: 30 Aug 2008 Age: 41 Gender: Female Posts: 5,682 Location: Europe
07 Jul 2011, 1:02 pm
b9 wrote:
the fact that so many humans can not see equality between themselves and animals is not surprising to me. humans are like shaved savage apes mostly (in my opinion).
sadly, that's very true.
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