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23 Oct 2011, 3:24 pm

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Well, if it's the Borg vs the Empire, i would say the Borg would win hands down, because if a small group of rebels could overthrow the empire, they could easily assimilate the Empire. One cube could attack/assimilate the Death Star and from there, the entire empire would be a cake walk...


Ooooh. A Borg Death Star...cool!


Need I point out the Borg Sphere?


Yeah, but does it have a trench with an inexplicably unshielded thermal exhaust port?


That would be illogical.


That would be Empire.


I thought we where discussing Borg.


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23 Oct 2011, 4:01 pm

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I thought they were the same thing :P

They're conceptually quite different, at least originally. Star Wars is a fantasy trilogy of films about the American War of Independence and feudal Japan, while Star Trek is a set of two or three skiffy TV series (and some films which oddly only have even numbers) about contemporary politics.


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23 Oct 2011, 4:04 pm

Titangeek wrote:
shrox wrote:
Titangeek wrote:
shrox wrote:
Titangeek wrote:
shrox wrote:
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Well, if it's the Borg vs the Empire, i would say the Borg would win hands down, because if a small group of rebels could overthrow the empire, they could easily assimilate the Empire. One cube could attack/assimilate the Death Star and from there, the entire empire would be a cake walk...


Ooooh. A Borg Death Star...cool!


Need I point out the Borg Sphere?


Yeah, but does it have a trench with an inexplicably unshielded thermal exhaust port?


That would be illogical.


That would be Empire.


I thought we where discussing Borg.


I meant an inexplicably unshielded thermal exhaust port would be an Empire thing to do.



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23 Oct 2011, 4:05 pm

shrox wrote:
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shrox wrote:
Titangeek wrote:
shrox wrote:
Titangeek wrote:
shrox wrote:
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Well, if it's the Borg vs the Empire, i would say the Borg would win hands down, because if a small group of rebels could overthrow the empire, they could easily assimilate the Empire. One cube could attack/assimilate the Death Star and from there, the entire empire would be a cake walk...


Ooooh. A Borg Death Star...cool!


Need I point out the Borg Sphere?


Yeah, but does it have a trench with an inexplicably unshielded thermal exhaust port?


That would be illogical.


That would be Empire.


I thought we where discussing Borg.


I meant an inexplicably unshielded thermal exhaust port would be an Empire thing to do.


Like I said, Borg are better.


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23 Oct 2011, 4:07 pm

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Like I said, Borg are better.


I don't think the Borg would miss a detail like that either.



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23 Oct 2011, 4:11 pm

I am a big fan of both but I think Star Wars would win. The spacefaring civilization in Star Wars had existed for tens of thousands of years by the time of the movies and is far more technologically advanced (most of the galaxy being in communication with each other). You look at Star Trek and most of the galaxy is inaccessible due to long distances. Most civilizations present have existed for at most a few thousand years such as the Borg. The population in the Star Wars galaxy is probably magnitudes greater than in the Star Trek galaxy as well

Star Wars also has Jedi & Sith who would tear the redshirts a new a**hole. It would be a redshirt massacre if a Sith got on board a Federation ship


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23 Oct 2011, 4:31 pm

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I am a big fan of both but I think Star Wars would win. The spacefaring civilization in Star Wars had existed for tens of thousands of years by the time of the movies and is far more technologically advanced (most of the galaxy being in communication with each other). You look at Star Trek and most of the galaxy is inaccessible due to long distances. Most civilizations present have existed for at most a few thousand years such as the Borg. The population in the Star Wars galaxy is probably magnitudes greater than in the Star Trek galaxy as well

Star Wars also has Jedi & Sith who would tear the redshirts a new a**hole. It would be a redshirt massacre if a Sith got on board a Federation ship


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23 Oct 2011, 4:34 pm

Star Wars, definitely.

It really is no contest. The Empire is a type III civilization, whereas the Federation is a type II civilization. It's not that the Empire is more advanced in technology, but that their numbers are far, far greater.

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The United Federation of Planets, also known as "The Federation" is a fictional interplanetary federal republic depicted in the Star Trek television series and motion pictures. In those episodes and films, the Federation is described as an interstellar federal polity with, as of the year 2373, more than 150 member planets and thousands of colonies spread across 8,000 light years of the Milky Way Galaxy, and taking the form of a post-capitalist liberal democracy and constitutional republic.


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At its peak, the Imperial Navy fielded at least tens of thousands of warships and fulfilled the Emperor's will throughout the galaxy. After its defeat at the Battle of Endor, the Galactic Empire splits up into warring factions and the Imperial Starfleet splinters along with it. While much of the remnants of the Imperial Navy were later reunited under impressive Imperial commanders, the military organization covered in this article ceased to exist shortly after the death of the Emperor.


Star Wars galaxy: http://www.starwarsmap.com/official_sta ... erse_1.jpg

Star Trek galaxy: http://cdn.booredatwork.com/wp-content/ ... k_map2.jpg

Basically, the difference between the Star Wars universe and the Star Trek universe in terms of scale, not technology, is equal to the difference between a small country today and a coalition spanning the entire solar system.

There's no way to prove that the technology in Star Wars is any better than that in Star Trek, but I'll say this. The Star Wars planet Coruscant became a huge city 100,000 years before A New Hope. The hyperdrive was adapted from the ancient Rakatans and the galactic republic was formed 25,000 years before ANH. In contrast, Star Trek takes place only a few hundred years after today's era, which would put their recorded civilization at only a few thousand years old. In other words, if the battle of Yavin happened today, Star Wars was colonizing worlds like Star Trek when humans lived in caves and still had fur. Now, just judging by time here, the Star Wars technology should be much more advanced.

But, the fact that I've thought about this so much is only evidence that I am a fan of both universes, and sci-fi in general.


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23 Oct 2011, 4:35 pm

I don't know Trek at all, so I'll say Wars.



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23 Oct 2011, 4:43 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3h_vMyay6k[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olNkLbHlQRg&feature=channel_video_title[/youtube]

It would be nice to see Spock become a jedi. :P


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23 Oct 2011, 4:46 pm

How many Star Destroyers equal how many Galaxy Class starships?



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23 Oct 2011, 7:21 pm

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How many Star Destroyers equal how many Galaxy Class starships?


As much as size go star destroyers are bigger.


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23 Oct 2011, 7:26 pm

I'll give you one guess what my answer is. If you get it wrong, you lose 5,000 geek points.


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23 Oct 2011, 8:17 pm

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I'll give you one guess what my answer is. If you get it wrong, you lose 5,000 geek points.



Hmm, just a guess but, an armada of Star Fleet ships, lead by the Enterprise, commanded by Captain Jean-Luc Picard, while drinking a cup of hot Earl Grey tea.


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23 Oct 2011, 8:26 pm

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I'll give you one guess what my answer is. If you get it wrong, you lose 5,000 geek points.



Hmm, just a guess but, an armada of Star Fleet ships, lead by the Enterprise, commanded by Captain Jean-Luc Picard, while drinking a cup of hot Earl Grey tea.


Well done! You don't win anything for being correct, though. Unless you consider keeping 5,000 geek points a win...


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23 Oct 2011, 8:27 pm

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I'll give you one guess what my answer is. If you get it wrong, you lose 5,000 geek points.



Hmm, just a guess but, an armada of Star Fleet ships, lead by the Enterprise, commanded by Captain Jean-Luc Picard, while drinking a cup of hot Earl Grey tea.


Well done! You don't win anything for being correct, though. Unless you consider keeping 5,000 geek points a win...


A geek point saved is a geek point earned :lol:


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