Was Dahmer autistic?
Venger wrote:
Fnord wrote:
"He was playing with a lighter and some gasoline, and the explosion blew him across the yard." If the child tried to tell someone what had really happened, then all his parents had to say was, "He's just lying to stay out of trouble -- he won't admit what he did to anyone."
wtf, The explosion blew him across the yard? I don't think the kid would be alive to talk about it in the first place. He's still alive ... scarred ... walks with a limp ... but he's still alive.
He was not playing with fire, and there was no explosion, either.
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Venger wrote:
I know the Children's Services Division and Police would usually act like the parents had all the rights, and the kid had little or no rights. Mainly talking about in the 1980s or before.
The events I related happened in the late 1960s.
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ProvokesThinking wrote:
I have read topics about this here more, but I couldn't find recent topics on this.
I have Aspergers Syndrome myself, although un-diagnosed, and I watched a documentary about this Dahmer and also read a lot about him. Why do some people with Aspergers here claim that Dahmer was absolutely not autistic and was a psychopath?
I recognize quite some things of myself in him and his behaviour. The odd social interaction he made, he couldn't have close friendships with other people, obsessive interests (which happened when his father, a chemist introduced him to animal cadavers, which he started collecting), goofy behaviour sometimes (in school he was known as a clown, although some Aspergers are absolutely not clowns I also know autistic people who are clowns and acting like clowns) and he doesn't correspond to the normal pattern of serial killers. I 'm almost sure that people like Ted Bundy and Ramirez were psychopaths, they were absolutely not on the autistic spectrum, they didn't show guilt and such things, but when I look at Jeffrey Dahmer he doesn't fit this pattern, he had a sense of guilt and he didn't even realise the consequences of what he did, a typical autistic feature, sometimes I too don't realise the consequences of what I 've done and I know other autistic people who have this.
Of course it went horribly wrong with him and he is just an exception, because there aren't a lot of other autistic people who turned in somebody like him, but why do people here deny he could have had Aspergers? I have it myself and I think it may be very well possible he had had it, his obsessive interests and the other mental disorders he had in combination with Aspergers just made it gone horribly wrong.
I have Aspergers Syndrome myself, although un-diagnosed, and I watched a documentary about this Dahmer and also read a lot about him. Why do some people with Aspergers here claim that Dahmer was absolutely not autistic and was a psychopath?
I recognize quite some things of myself in him and his behaviour. The odd social interaction he made, he couldn't have close friendships with other people, obsessive interests (which happened when his father, a chemist introduced him to animal cadavers, which he started collecting), goofy behaviour sometimes (in school he was known as a clown, although some Aspergers are absolutely not clowns I also know autistic people who are clowns and acting like clowns) and he doesn't correspond to the normal pattern of serial killers. I 'm almost sure that people like Ted Bundy and Ramirez were psychopaths, they were absolutely not on the autistic spectrum, they didn't show guilt and such things, but when I look at Jeffrey Dahmer he doesn't fit this pattern, he had a sense of guilt and he didn't even realise the consequences of what he did, a typical autistic feature, sometimes I too don't realise the consequences of what I 've done and I know other autistic people who have this.
Of course it went horribly wrong with him and he is just an exception, because there aren't a lot of other autistic people who turned in somebody like him, but why do people here deny he could have had Aspergers? I have it myself and I think it may be very well possible he had had it, his obsessive interests and the other mental disorders he had in combination with Aspergers just made it gone horribly wrong.
Unfortunately, the type of professionals I know would classify this behaviour as schizophrenia, even though I know it's not schizophrenia. But that's basically what happens here when you don't fit in perfectly.
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Double X and proud of it / male pronouns : he, him, his
Mr. Dahmer went out 'hunting', so to speak.
He sought out victims.
He chose the most vulnerable, young black male prostitutes, one at least was disabled.
This is rage and hate, which is not unknown in PTSD.
This is a lot different from an emotional meltdown seen in many Aspies.
Sylkat
