How do alcoholics afford to be an alcoholic?

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10 Jun 2013, 8:51 am

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Benefits can go a surprisingly long way if all you buy is the cheapest and nastiest alcohol.


Much better to not be an alcoholic, and get good alcohol more occasionally in that case.


It does seem to take quite a lot of effort to become an alcoholic so they must get something out of it.


it's the opposite really, you don't realize it till you can't cope without it. after my mom died last year I started drinking every day for about 4 months, then realized I was doing it and stopped. the thing is the first few days I had to have a beer after trying to sleep but couldn't. after 1 beer, or not even one I would fall asleep fast. after most of the money I got cus of her death ran out I stopped drinking in the week(mostly) but friends would drop by with beer and then leave, leaving me with the rest of the 30 pack.........and the drinking continued.........




How did you afford to drink everyday? Are you rich or did you drown yourself in debt or neglect your other bills and yourself?


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10 Jun 2013, 8:53 am

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My mom spent $68 on it and she bought a bunch of wine and a pack of Mike's Hard Lemonade and a pack of wine coolers. Drink this everyday, it all adds up and it's expensive and how do people afford to be an alcoholic? I asked my mother this and she said she wonders the same too.


Is this what your mum drinks every day? 8O



She doesn't drink every day, she drinks like how everyone else does, casual. But I do like to say we look like a bunch of alcoholics when we have a bin full of empty bottles and someone always comes by and takes them out when I set them on the curb for pickup.

But that stuff will last my parents a while.


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10 Jun 2013, 8:57 am

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How did you afford to drink everyday? Are you rich or did you drown yourself in debt or neglect your other bills and yourself?


People can be alcoholics even if they don't drink every day. If you drink cheap stuff or mooch off of other people you can get drunk quite often for cheap. When I was younger and went to the bar with my friend guys used to buy us drinks.

Once someone at the bar asked us "where do you get the money to go to the bar every night". I don't know why they said that. We went 1-2 times a week max usually and spent less than $20 or even $10 for a night of drinking.



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10 Jun 2013, 9:01 am

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How did you afford to drink everyday? Are you rich or did you drown yourself in debt or neglect your other bills and yourself?


People can be alcoholics even if they don't drink every day. If you drink cheap stuff or mooch off of other people you can get drunk quite often for cheap. When I was younger and went to the bar with my friend guys used to buy us drinks.

Once someone at the bar asked us "where do you get the money to go to the bar every night". I don't know why they said that. We went 1-2 times a week max usually and spent less than $20 or even $10 for a night of drinking.



Did you go there on the same days? Maybe that person also went on the same days as well and saw you both there every time so he made an assumption you guys go there every day.


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10 Jun 2013, 9:18 am

A good way to drink cheaply is to brew your own. It's actually a interesting process. You can make wines out of all sorts of things. I would not recommend this hobby to alcoholics. Well maybe if it will save them money it will help them. Alcoholics really need to stop drinking altogether..


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10 Jun 2013, 10:12 am

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A good way to drink cheaply is to brew your own. It's actually a interesting process. You can make wines out of all sorts of things. I would not recommend this hobby to alcoholics. Well maybe if it will save them money it will help them. Alcoholics really need to stop drinking altogether..


I used to make my own wine and beer years ago. It was quite interesting and I made some good and potent brews. The downside is that you tend to drink more at home and it becomes a habit after work and settling down for the evening to drink a few pints every night while watching TV etc. One could easily slip into alcoholism that way; plus it was dirt cheap to make your own.


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10 Jun 2013, 10:57 am

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I used to make my own wine and beer years ago. It was quite interesting and I made some good and potent brews. The downside is that you tend to drink more at home and it becomes a habit after work and settling down for the evening to drink a few pints every night while watching TV etc. One could easily slip into alcoholism that way; plus it was dirt cheap to make your own.


If I could do it, I would.

The cider I made once gave me terrible squits.



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10 Jun 2013, 11:38 am

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I used to make my own wine and beer years ago. It was quite interesting and I made some good and potent brews. The downside is that you tend to drink more at home and it becomes a habit after work and settling down for the evening to drink a few pints every night while watching TV etc. One could easily slip into alcoholism that way; plus it was dirt cheap to make your own.


If I could do it, I would.

The cider I made once gave me terrible squits.


Probably a result of contamination. You need to be meticulous with sterilisation of EVERYTHING that comes into contact with the brew. One slip up and you've given bacteria a wonderful home to thrive in along with the yeast.


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10 Jun 2013, 12:53 pm

League_Girl wrote:
danmac wrote:
oddone wrote:
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Benefits can go a surprisingly long way if all you buy is the cheapest and nastiest alcohol.


Much better to not be an alcoholic, and get good alcohol more occasionally in that case.


It does seem to take quite a lot of effort to become an alcoholic so they must get something out of it.


it's the opposite really, you don't realize it till you can't cope without it. after my mom died last year I started drinking every day for about 4 months, then realized I was doing it and stopped. the thing is the first few days I had to have a beer after trying to sleep but couldn't. after 1 beer, or not even one I would fall asleep fast. after most of the money I got cus of her death ran out I stopped drinking in the week(mostly) but friends would drop by with beer and then leave, leaving me with the rest of the 30 pack.........and the drinking continued.........




How did you afford to drink everyday? Are you rich or did you drown yourself in debt or neglect your other bills and yourself?


a 30 pack can last me 3-6 days by my self and at $15 it isn't hard to stretch. and in that 4 month period I didn't always have 6 or more, sometimes just 1-2. and I got money after she died, plus I bring in my own income. living in a rooming house it is affordable enough that what little money I get still stretches.


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10 Jun 2013, 6:32 pm

TallyMan wrote:
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A good way to drink cheaply is to brew your own. It's actually a interesting process. You can make wines out of all sorts of things. I would not recommend this hobby to alcoholics. Well maybe if it will save them money it will help them. Alcoholics really need to stop drinking altogether..


I used to make my own wine and beer years ago. It was quite interesting and I made some good and potent brews. The downside is that you tend to drink more at home and it becomes a habit after work and settling down for the evening to drink a few pints every night while watching TV etc. One could easily slip into alcoholism that way; plus it was dirt cheap to make your own.


yeah I'm very wary of that, I just drink in friday and not to much.

What sort of wines did you make? I've just really started. Made mead (honey wine) for a start, now brewing eldeberry wine, quince wine and rosehip wine. The all taste good so far. I've got a ph meter so I can adjust the acid level correctly, I think that and sugar content seem to be the key.


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11 Jun 2013, 2:29 am

MR_BOGAN wrote:
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A good way to drink cheaply is to brew your own. It's actually a interesting process. You can make wines out of all sorts of things. I would not recommend this hobby to alcoholics. Well maybe if it will save them money it will help them. Alcoholics really need to stop drinking altogether..


I used to make my own wine and beer years ago. It was quite interesting and I made some good and potent brews. The downside is that you tend to drink more at home and it becomes a habit after work and settling down for the evening to drink a few pints every night while watching TV etc. One could easily slip into alcoholism that way; plus it was dirt cheap to make your own.


yeah I'm very wary of that, I just drink in friday and not to much.

What sort of wines did you make? I've just really started. Made mead (honey wine) for a start, now brewing eldeberry wine, quince wine and rosehip wine. The all taste good so far. I've got a ph meter so I can adjust the acid level correctly, I think that and sugar content seem to be the key.


I tried lots of different wines from whatever fruit was in season. Gooseberry wine is good - they have the nickname "hairy grapes" :lol: Also made peach, pear, apple, rhubarb (but that was too acidic). Another one that was really good surprisingly enough was grapefruit and sultana - using the boxed juice and a mash made from sultanas - that wine was extremely potent. I also used to make beer too using those tins that are ready to use - just add a bag of sugar, the yeast and leave in a five gallon tub for a few weeks. Also tried elderberry wine and others, forgotten now, it is a long time ago.


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11 Jun 2013, 2:46 am

Cheap wine.

You can get a couple of bottles for around $10. There's a day.



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11 Jun 2013, 3:00 am

I drink every day, too, but I don't consider myself as an alcoholic. A bottle of wine lasts me five days because I can only drink half a glass at a time. Or what's the definition of an alcoholic? Someone who drinks every day? If that's the case, I am an alcoholic, but I'm well in control of my drinking. If I want to, I can easily stop drinking and go without it for months or years.



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11 Jun 2013, 5:32 am

TallyMan wrote:
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A good way to drink cheaply is to brew your own. It's actually a interesting process. You can make wines out of all sorts of things. I would not recommend this hobby to alcoholics. Well maybe if it will save them money it will help them. Alcoholics really need to stop drinking altogether..


I used to make my own wine and beer years ago. It was quite interesting and I made some good and potent brews. The downside is that you tend to drink more at home and it becomes a habit after work and settling down for the evening to drink a few pints every night while watching TV etc. One could easily slip into alcoholism that way; plus it was dirt cheap to make your own.


yeah I'm very wary of that, I just drink in friday and not to much.

What sort of wines did you make? I've just really started. Made mead (honey wine) for a start, now brewing eldeberry wine, quince wine and rosehip wine. The all taste good so far. I've got a ph meter so I can adjust the acid level correctly, I think that and sugar content seem to be the key.


I tried lots of different wines from whatever fruit was in season. Gooseberry wine is good - they have the nickname "hairy grapes" :lol: Also made peach, pear, apple, rhubarb (but that was too acidic). Another one that was really good surprisingly enough was grapefruit and sultana - using the boxed juice and a mash made from sultanas - that wine was extremely potent. I also used to make beer too using those tins that are ready to use - just add a bag of sugar, the yeast and leave in a five gallon tub for a few weeks. Also tried elderberry wine and others, forgotten now, it is a long time ago.


Yeah I used to make beer with the tins, I'm gluten free so can't drink beer anymore. My Quince must was a bit to acidic, so I put some baking soda in it. That brought down the acidity, not sure if that is the best thing to use. With the grapefruit do you use 5 litres of box juice to fill a carboy. You must hand down your secrets.. :twisted:


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11 Jun 2013, 5:33 am

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I drink every day, too, but I don't consider myself as an alcoholic. A bottle of wine lasts me five days because I can only drink half a glass at a time. Or what's the definition of an alcoholic? Someone who drinks every day? If that's the case, I am an alcoholic, but I'm well in control of my drinking. If I want to, I can easily stop drinking and go without it for months or years.


Do you need alcohol to function, to live, rather than just liking it?

If so, you're an alcoholic.



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11 Jun 2013, 5:34 am

The definition of addiction is as easy to find as the one for AS. They're in the same book after all.