Would You ever live out in the middle of nowhere?
Yes indeed, thats what keeps me going, the thought that when I retire, I can sell up and go buy a little house in the middle of the woods somewhere and listen to the wolves baying at night instead of kids endlessly riding their scooters with noisy exhausts up and down my road while Iam trying to go to sleep.
Just hope I will still be fit enough to gather fire wood and wild mushrooms to eat.
My main ambition since I was a kid was to build a Frog and Toad paradise sanctuary, would still like to be able to do that.
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I couldn't survive that way. I cant drive due to low vision so I need to have everything within walking distance or public transit available in order not to be forced to be dependent on others for rides & no one would like having to go to the middle of nowhere to bring me places. I also need/really like high-speed internet & cable TV which of coarse wouldn't be available in the middle of nowhere or I'd be the lowest priority for the compnay so the quality & reliability of service would s#ck.
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Living out in the middle of nowhere sounds good in theory, but for one transportation expenses will get out of control really fast. You'd have to drive 10 times as far to do anything, gas ain't cheap. Also there are a lot of true weirdos out there, people who you will understand really fast why they live far away from everyone else. Dangerous weirdos that horror movies are written about.
Meth cooks like to set up shop out in the middle of nowhere. One of the scariest neighborhoods I have driven through is out in the middle of the Mojave desert. One look at the blown up trailers and chain link fences around run down houses really gave me the feeling they didn't like strangers around there. It's called "hi vista" about 25 miles east of Lancaster,CA... scary place, stay away.
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Meth cooks like to set up shop out in the middle of nowhere. One of the scariest neighborhoods I have driven through is out in the middle of the Mojave desert. One look at the blown up trailers and chain link fences around run down houses really gave me the feeling they didn't like strangers around there. It's called "hi vista" about 25 miles east of Lancaster,CA... scary place, stay away.

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Easy to find people if they buy a property legitimately. Squatting would be the only way to remain hidden, but that'd be a hard life -- something serious criminals probably wouldn't handle.
Not to mention that even in rural areas, everyone knows who lives in what place (a little different to country areas, where people tend to know everyone else, rather than just knowing of); the lack of people makes it easier to keep tabs on others (even if they're hundreds/thousands of acres away).
The only real aid in criminal activity would be doing things that might draw attention in the suburban areas, which would be mostly drug related.
There are more sex offenders in town.Thats where their prey is.They are more vulnerable to vigilante justice in a rural area.Most underworld types seem to prefer cities.Thats how they caught wh***y Bulger.Meth cooks can be a problem even in town.Many rent cheap hotel rooms to shake and bake,you can have a lab anywhere.
New people tend to stand out in rural areas and neighbors tend to be noisier than in town.A suspicious stranger moving in will draw attention.
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Not to mention that even in rural areas, everyone knows who lives in what place (a little different to country areas, where people tend to know everyone else, rather than just knowing of); the lack of people makes it easier to keep tabs on others (even if they're hundreds/thousands of acres away).
The only real aid in criminal activity would be doing things that might draw attention in the suburban areas, which would be mostly drug related.
Sounds about right. People can be anonymous in cities where people typically don't know who lives in the next apartment and nobody looks at you twice on the street. Here in rural areas you get used to seeing certain faces and a stranger would stand out. People tend to know who lives within a mile or two. On the rare occasions I see my neighbour (he's 1/4 mile away) he likes to gossip about the other "neighbours", it is surprising what gets noticed out here in the sticks. If someone wants to hide, they would be better off lost and anonymous in a big city.
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I think I would like living isolated in the wilderness away from people. Not just to get away from people but because I really enjoy nature. My family has went camping a few times and I just like to look at trees, flowers, wild animals, and insects. Of course I would have to live in a driving distance from a city in order to buy supplies.
Edit: And also I NEVER want to live in a small town ever again. I grew up in a small town before I moved to a bigger city and absolutely hated it. People are more annoying in a small town than they are in a big city.
Meth cooks like to set up shop out in the middle of nowhere. One of the scariest neighborhoods I have driven through is out in the middle of the Mojave desert. One look at the blown up trailers and chain link fences around run down houses really gave me the feeling they didn't like strangers around there. It's called "hi vista" about 25 miles east of Lancaster,CA... scary place, stay away.
In my particular idea I would live off the local land, collect water from the river and hunt local game and find and grow local plants. ( I know how to purify water and to cook food )
I guess my only problem would me mentally, I would start to miss my family a little after a week.
Heres an interesting guide on how to disappear of the map and of the radar completely, although I wouldn't go this far, I would still have contact with friends and family if I were to live out nowhere.
http://www.wikihow.com/Disappear-Completely
The fantasy and the reality are quite different. I'm about as close to that ideal as possible in the Western world. I have a very large vegetable garden, orchard with different types of fruit and chickens for eggs. However we still have to pay for clothing, electricity, telephone, internet and gas for cooking. Keeping a vehicle on the road is another expense. Despite having negligible income the state still requires us to pay taxes too - for the last few years the state has required more in taxes than my income, which is hard to say the least! There is also the cost of maintaining a house etc and purchasing lots of other things that we can't "grow" such as washing powder, toiletries and other groceries we can't grow ourselves due to the climate. We bake our own bread but still have to buy flour.
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Yes.
Taxes and rates also tend to be higher in the rural areas due to "usable" land (kinda silly though when you can't legally do much with it, like say cut an acre off and sell it).
The best you could really do would be:
Fruit/vegetables
some farmed animal (chickens are good here)
horse and cart -- horses aren't really cheaper than a car though
water tanks (this tends to be required anyway)
maintenance by yourself (you end up being a carpenter and farmer)
odd hunting to add some different food to the tray
That's a lot of work though -- it's a job in itself.
You'll then need some form of income to pay the taxes and power (+ other bills that will pop up) -- you can forgo the power, but I doubt anyone would, as it's so much easier to have water pumped to the house from the tanks, lights and 'net access.
You can do it though, it's just that seclusion comes with a price -- also, no one knows if they can handle seclusion or not until they try it. I've found about 50% of people who move into the sticks can't.
(It's the best life in my opinion.)
I'm willing to bet that all rural and forested land in the U.S. is accounted for. Some are privately owned or owned by federal or state concerns. On state land you can squat in one place, without moving, for 72 hours. After that you must move your campsite every three days and it has to be 100 feet away from the last one.
I'm sure the authorities don't conduct routine searches in the larger state parks. That requires too much manpower and it only happens when they're in search of a killer or other criminal. I'm sure it's possible to live in the mountains of Washington or Colorado for months without being seen but there's the risk some camper will see your spot and notify the state police.
Alaska's a huge place. I don't know if all land is accounted for. Christopher McCandless thought he could live out there as Alex Supertramp for the rest of his life. He didn't. As it turned out, the area where he died wasn't as remote as he thought. People went camping near by. There was even a line to cross a river near him but he wasn't aware of it.
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That's true.Quite a few move out here and then after a few years they leave.Social isolation is not for everyone.And in bad weather you may not be able to get out if you wanted too.No one has been down our road today.There's a layer of sleet,then snow on top of that.The mail won't run till the county clears the road and that might be for days.Some people here do solar or water power.It would cost one of my neighbors around 5,000 bucks to get power lines.We paid around $500 for our over distance.I like the power,AC is really nice when it gets over 90.
My land taxes are pretty reasonable,I get a homestead exemption.I suppose that varies from place to place.The main thing is water.Many people here buy land in the winter to find out the spring they think is year round only runs in the wet season.
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