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kraftiekortie
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22 May 2014, 7:48 pm

Soap is quite necessary. Maybe use Ivory?



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23 May 2014, 7:14 am

Have you tried baking soda? Apparently it's good for cleaning your skin because it maintains your natural ph balance. I use it as an exfoliating cleanser for my face.

Oh and lemon juice and vinegar make good natural cleaning products for surfaces around the home.



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23 May 2014, 7:11 pm

Soap is a necessity for me, because I have oily skin.


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23 May 2014, 11:55 pm

There are tons of green/biodegradable products out there nowadays as well. The dish soap I'm using at the moment is made with basil oil, so that's all I can smell when I use it.



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25 May 2014, 6:32 pm

khaoz wrote:
for cleaning I mean? Specifically dishes?


It's not that it's necessary to wash the dishes with soap so much as it's unhygienic to repeatedly eat from the same surface. Before dishes, humans used leaves and other disposable dishes. We don't need the soap; we need to go back to eating practices that don't require soap.
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And the human body. Other than for scent, is soap necessary to clean our body and hair or have we just been conditioned to believe that we are dirty and unsanitary, unhygienic, if we do not use large quantities of soaps, oils, lotions and emollients.

I don't think that it is necessary; it can't be necessary, because humans evolved without it. They survived without it. I haven't bathed with soap in years. It's true that I have a small amount of residual body odor, but that is completely natural, doesn't bother me at all, and I don't feel the need to get rid of it. I doubt that people can even smell it unless they get very close. Humans are animals; animals have odors. Attitudes towards those odors are subjective and culturally determined. I still wash my hair with soap about once a month, though. I've seen one person online claim to have made it to the point of not needing to shampoo ever, but I haven't figured out how to do it.

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Maybe its part of a consumption society. Have to keep Proctor and Gamble in business and wot, ya know. Really though, is it all necessary?
Consumption society brainwashed into over-cleanliness. It's not necessary to kill every single germ outside of a medical setting, and doing so only creates resistant strains of bacteria and viruses. Life will always strive to find a way to adapt, to continue. Living with a reasonable amount of germs builds the immune system. Society puts too much effort into fighting nature rather than living in harmony with it.



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26 May 2014, 3:34 pm

you would not like the way I smell should I decide to shun soap. anyways, I lick my bowls and flatware/silverware clean :mrgreen:



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26 May 2014, 3:47 pm

Ages ago Mythbusters did a study on this. They found that hands were cleaner if washed with soap and water rather than soap alone. Feel free to duplicate the study but you'll need a few agar plates and a lab for the results.


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27 May 2014, 4:02 pm

Eccles_the_Mighty wrote:
They found that hands were cleaner if washed with soap and water rather than soap alone.


...you mean "rather than water alone?"