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shortfatbalduglyman
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07 Jul 2017, 10:17 pm

Please, use "you all" instead.
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what difference does it make, if strangers on the internet use "you all" instead of "Hey Guys"?

unless you have a really unusual situation, you do not regularly, in person, interact with enough strangers on the internet, in order for it to matter, if the strangers. on the internet, say "you all" instead of "Hey Guys".

yeah that's exactly it. just b/c i ain't cisgender (Gender Identity Diagnosis 2004, over 10 years before Caitlyn Jenner won the Arthur Ashe Courage Award), i do not like getting called a "girl" or "woman". but there is no law that says that someone can't do so.

even Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. 2012 included "gender identity". it specified pronoun usage. big deal.

that law only applies when the speaker is at work.

and even if the speaker is homophobic and refuses to comply, then what? then take a videotape and file a civil lawsuit? some lawsuits take over 2 years long. some lawyers charge over 500 dollars per billable hour. the party with the moral high road is not guaranteed to win.

yeah i get what you mean though. sometimes, it gets on my nerves when someone says something. even though what they say is perfectly standard, normative, and common. for example they say "huh" and "what" instead of "excuse me".

but i do not have a legal right to prevent them from doing so. i cannot fire them from work. i cannot legally extort them.

and besides, though. sometimes i wonder what if someone were to humor me, then what? would they say that in a mocking voice, every single time?

so for that reason. among numerous others. the older i get. i am 34 right now. the more meaningless and stupid everyone (including myself) appears. seems. to me. the more i just avoid them.

b/c their word choice reflects their attitude. you do not control their attitude. unless you successfully use peer pressure.

but there are a lot of precious lil "people" that say "guys and girls" and do not mean it in a negative, sexist, or homophobic way.

while there are not that many people, that find it emotionally disturbing the usage of "guys and girls." or maybe there are and they just do not say anything.



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07 Jul 2017, 10:48 pm

ZachGoodwin wrote:
Please, use "you all" instead.
where I come from we use Y'all


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07 Jul 2017, 11:41 pm

ZachGoodwin wrote:
Please, use "you all" instead.
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where I come from we use Y'all
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according to Zach and Nick's profiles, Zach and Nick do not even live in the same state. the chances that they interact in person appear slim. so, what good is it, for Zach, if Nick says "you all" instead of "Hey Guys."

yeah i get that there are a lot of things precious lil "people" say and do. often. that get on my nerves. but if i have the nerve to try to micromanage them, i would (first) concern myself with precious lil "people" that i regularly interact with. face to face.

"pick your battles"

"if you can't beat 'em, join 'em."

someone's word choice shows someone's attitudes. like if someone says "you got mad" that sounds a bit biased. they did not say "angry". "mad" is not an emotion. and "mad" sounds, to me, unjustified.

and there is no law that says that someone has to always (or ever) use the latest greatest euphemism.

but what if there were a law, then what?

euphemisms are still just words. they do not inherently have meaning or power.



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08 Jul 2017, 12:05 am

Aristophanes wrote:
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You would never refer to a single female as a guy.

Lol, I've seen several people refer to females as 'dude' in one on one conversation. Used to be that word was masculine only. If you think referring to a mixed group as 'guys' is weird refer to them as 'humans' (Sup humans?) and from the group's reaction you'll find that 'guys' is preferential.


Funny thing is, "dude" originally was a derogatory term that referred to a prissy, effeminate male, of the snooty society type who overdressed for all occasions, and was more at home in the company of snobby women and arrogant poseurs, than workaday blue collar "real men."

Leading to phrases like "What you all duded up for?" and terms like "Dude Ranch," which was more of a resort for people who wanted the ambience of the great outdoors, without getting dirty, or doing actual work.


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08 Jul 2017, 6:49 am

will@rd wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
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You would never refer to a single female as a guy.

Lol, I've seen several people refer to females as 'dude' in one on one conversation. Used to be that word was masculine only. If you think referring to a mixed group as 'guys' is weird refer to them as 'humans' (Sup humans?) and from the group's reaction you'll find that 'guys' is preferential.


Funny thing is, "dude" originally was a derogatory term that referred to a prissy, effeminate male, of the snooty society type who overdressed for all occasions, and was more at home in the company of snobby women and arrogant poseurs, than workaday blue collar "real men."

Leading to phrases like "What you all duded up for?" and terms like "Dude Ranch," which was more of a resort for people who wanted the ambience of the great outdoors, without getting dirty, or doing actual work.
If dude was originally short for an effeminate guy, Was dudette originally short for a women that was kinda a tomboy :?:


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08 Jul 2017, 7:19 pm

The word "guy" also used to be pejorative. It referred to a person who was oddly dressed.