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Fnord
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01 Jun 2018, 4:49 pm

The heart and matter and concept of the issue is this: The World operates on certain principles. I have listed what I think they are. Since they cannot be changed, a person must either accept them, believe that they are valid, and live life in harmony with them; or reject them, believe that they are invalid, and live life in conflict with them.

That's all.

Again, you are over-analyzing. There is no need for that. Accept them or reject them, just please stop arguing about them.


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01 Jun 2018, 6:21 pm

Fnord wrote:
The heart and matter and concept of the issue is this: The World operates on certain principles. I have listed what I think they are. Since they cannot be changed, a person must either accept them, believe that they are valid, and live life in harmony with them; or reject them, believe that they are invalid, and live life in conflict with them.

That's all.

Again, you are over-analyzing. There is no need for that. Accept them or reject them, just please stop arguing about them.


You do realize you sound cult-like when you say "...just please stop arguing about them." But, you're not the only one who came up with these principles. I've spoken and heard from others who came up with these principles. They demand and expect their own version of fairness as in none of their money being taxed for welfare programs amongst other things.

If we're all to accept these principles then why did we have the revolutionary war or the civil rights movement?



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02 Jun 2018, 9:26 am

My impression on my experiences of the world is that these principles are sound but when it comes to their pet causes and anything that they believe is unfair these principles are tossed.

Life is unfair until it affects your sore spot which ironically proves the principles. My question to all of these guys who bash others with these principles. Are you willing to follow them yourself, slog on, quit bitching about socialism and welfare, pay your taxes and shut the f**k up? No, so if you're going to b***h about your version of unfairness of life then why should the rest of us shut up? All is fair in love and war right? What's good for the goose is good for the gander.



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02 Jun 2018, 12:04 pm

All of these principles are true and have been more then likely true for 1000s and of 1000s of years ever since man stepped onto this planet. Those like Fnord when they espouse this truth which for all intensive purposes is true commit what is called is-ought fallacy which was developed by David Hume. What Fnord and those him fail to consider is just because something is true today does that mean it ought to be this way? What he and others fail to answer and provide a logical reasoning for is how we get from this is how it is to this is how it ought to be. He and others never explain why it ought to CONTINUE to be this way? How do we get from A to B especially if the people felt it was unfair to have "no taxation without representation" and fought in a revolutionary war to obtain our independence?