What's so bad about "happy holidays"?

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Would you be offended by an old person sending a Christmas card that said 'Season's Greetings' though Daniel? I mostly get these from old people I assume to be Christians but it's essentially a secular message and the same as 'Happy Holidays'.

Indian/Pakistani people (mostly Muslims and Hindus) have been in this country in a fairly large amount since the 70s so I don't think people are choosing to come, rather choosing to stay where they grew up rather than being forced out because they're different.

And Jewish people even longer. And Jewish people didn't really have a place where they're the majority before Israel which some Jewish people have no big connection to. They just have where they've lived for centuries, like the rest of us.

I like Merry Christmas better. It has more of a bite to it.

I was just thinking that.

I wouldn't be offended by it at all, I have seen those seasons greetings one they seem to always be cheaper and I think that's why old people might buy them.

I have never heard of anyone from any group getting offended by being wished a merry Christmas here in the UK.

I say holiday season and to hell with anybody who gives me lip about it.

That would be a "t". Last I checked Jesus wasn't nailed to an X.

Merry happy Christmas holidays!

Last I checked an X IS a cross. Are you blind?

And in fact there is evidence that the actual crosses that they crucified people on were X shaped and not perpendicular anyway. But even you go by the convention of portraying Christ on a perpendicular cross it doesn't quite look like either a capital T or a lowercase T.

I was told working in retail that the politically correct thing is to say Happy Holidays unless the other person says Christmas or some other holiday & then you can say that.

What's so bad about "Merry Christmas"? And give me another reason besides the old "there are religions who don't celebrate Christmas" cliche.

Christmas has the word Christ in it & not everyone believes in him. Lots of people take religion very seriously

In ancient greek, the word "Christ" starts with the greek letter Chi, which looks identical to a modern day capital X.

I suppose it's still 'the religions who don't celebrate Christmas' argument but my Christian grandmother (technically. My dad's Christian mum who I never met) didn't celebrate Christmas at the end of her life because she thought Jesus wasn't born in December. She thought he was born when there were lambs which would be some time in March. So she saw it as a pagan time to celebrate and therefore not a Christian holiday.
Also, that 'cliché' as you call it is about feeling empathy for other people. If Christians were of one ethnicity which had been shoved from one land to another for centuries with genocides against us (I say us because I'm culturally Christian or at least would be under that alternate world structure), we'd be wanting that 'happy holidays' during Hanukkah if it fell at Christmas time.
Also, happy holidays includes New Year. Would you rather someone wanted you to have a merry Christmas (one thing) or a merry Christmas and a happy New Year? (two things)
I still think 'season's greetings' is the correct secular saying as 'happy holidays' is PC and usually has anti-Christian, left wing associations which is again shoving your opinions down someone's throat. But I like to put forward both sides of an argument if I can think of them.

Well, she was absolutely correct on that point, but that begs the question: how did she celebrate it when she did (if she did)? Considering the numerous other pagan influences on the modern christmas celebration, I mean.

lambing starts (possible) in december, as the seasonal estrous cycle taking of with summer equinox and a five month gestation, there's natural lambing before christmas
lambs happen to be SEEN when grass starts to grow in spring (this is in the n-hemisphere)

I can't recall the details, but I think that particular objection comes from a passing mention of lambs in the fields (being seen). There are other details of the story that places the birth in the fall instead. Most seem to agree that Jesus was, in fact, not born on the 25th of december, given that we know that Christ's Mass was set on December 25 by Pope Julius I, most likely to draw people away from pagan celebrations that occoured around that time (Saturnalia, birth of Mithras).