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23 Oct 2019, 7:25 pm

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Someone on Twitter once said about me that I have a mess of lot of bad opinions and I was confused about it because I rarely ever post my opinions on my page. I had an online friend look at it and he said only thing people might think that is a bad opinion is what I post about Donald Trump because it might offend them. I am anti Trump and have posted and liked mockery stuff about him.

I asked my online friend what he thinks a bad opinion is and he said to him a bad opinion is when someone has an opinion that cannot be backed up from facts and people form an opinion based on emotion than on facts and logic.

Another person said on youtube in a video that a bad opinion is when someone doesn't back up their opinion and defend it. I disagree because not everyone wants to debate their views and argue and I get it, some people love to have a debate so they may try and pick an argument with you when they disagree with you so they can try and change your view. But it was ironic when this guy said if you think there is no such thing as a bad opinion, you're an idiot and he didn't back it up lol.

I think bad opinion is subjective and everyone has their own definition of what a bad opinion is. I also think bad opinion basically means for some people, "I don't agree with you so therefore your opinion is bad."


That last thing is what it boils down to.



But again..."having a bad opinon" means "to think of something as being bad", and not "to have bad quality opinions".

So the folks saying that stuff to you are probably a bunch of illiterates.

So if I were you I put them on the defensive and first ...ask them which thing do they mean by "bad opinion" (to think badly of something, or to have a bad quality opinion?).

Then if they say the later then proceed to ask them exactly why your opinions are of lesser quality than theirs, and ask them to back it up. Just a thought. Might be fun just to get them flustered.



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23 Oct 2019, 7:32 pm

I might also point out that the opinion “All opinions are equally valid” is itself logically invalid.

For example, the opinions “Unicorn are real” and “Unicorns are not real” cannot both be valid, as one contradicts the other. Only the opinion based on fact is valid.


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23 Oct 2019, 7:41 pm

If someone has an opinion that violates human rights, how can someone not call it a bad opinion?


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23 Oct 2019, 7:43 pm

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If someone has an opinion that violates human rights, how can someone not call it a bad opinion?
How could a mere opinion — good or bad — violate human rights? The violation is in the action, not the thought.


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24 Oct 2019, 2:23 am

When you have an opinion that violates human rights, it affects how you treat people and what you vote for.


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24 Oct 2019, 3:40 am

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When you have an opinion that violates human rights, it affects how you treat people and what you vote for.


In a democracy you're supposed to allow folks to have free speech and to express their opinions, even if … their opinions are... that we should banish human rights...including the right to free speech.

That's why the ACLU defended the right of the American Nazi Party to march in Skokie Illinois in the Eighties.

For the umpteenth time the phrase "bad opinion" does not mean "an opinion of a bad quality".

It means "to have the have the opinion that something is bad".

So if folks on social media say "League Girl has bad opinions" they are talking nonsense. So don't worry about what folks mean by "a bad opinion" because folks who talk that way are talking nonsense. You don't need to conform to others when others are being inept.

If they mean that "League Girl has invalid opinions" then they should say it that way. And they should then explain why they consider your opinions to be invalid.



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24 Oct 2019, 1:57 pm

That person that said I had a mess of lot of bad opinions blocked me so I can't ask them what do they think is bad on my page. Is it my lifestyle? Is it random stuff I post? Is it me being pro abortion and about women's rights and birth control? Is it about me posting mockery things about our president and liking Tweets that make fun of him? Is it my humor and sarcasm I post to point out double standards in life? Is it me liking The legend of Zelda?

Who knows what this person meant by me having bad opinions lol. I think they were basically saying "I don't agree with lot of things this person posts."


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24 Oct 2019, 2:14 pm

This person who says they feel you have "bad opinions" is vocal in making it known that they don't approve of what you say. Whether or not anyone agrees with your opinion on any subject, matters not. That you can state your views, have an opinion and be heard, is surely your right. We are all unique with our own perspectives on matters, and we will never ALL agree on the same things. What a boring life, if we were all in agreeance... (Imagine how this forum would read, in total and complete harmony ... much less interesting, and less food for thought).



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24 Oct 2019, 2:14 pm

Fnord wrote:
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There’s no such thing as a bad opinion. Conversely, there’s no such thing as a good opinion. To quote my jackass of a brother, “Opinions are like a**holes: everyone has one!”
"...and they all stink." is how you're supposed finish the saying.
I had always heard it ended with “... and they’re usually full of s***!”

Or maybe I’m thinking of opinions being like politicians... ?


In my case, my brothers use that phrase as an insult and a put down, meaning they’re always right and I’m always wrong, even if I can prove to them fifteen different ways to Sunday that I was right.

They weren’t the only ones to do that. Dad used to pull the same crap on me. Any wonder why, to this day, I am made to feel like sh!t?



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24 Oct 2019, 2:36 pm

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In my case, my brothers use that phrase as an insult and a put down, meaning they’re always right and I’m always wrong, even if I can prove to them fifteen different ways to Sunday that I was right.

They weren’t the only ones to do that. Dad used to pull the same crap on me. Any wonder why, to this day, I am made to feel like sh!t?
Trust me on this: The more correct you are, and the more often you are correct, the more likely the rest of the world will try to make you feel like sh!t for it.

But then, after the sh!t has hit the fan because of their own idiocy, you will be proven right, and they will feel like sh!t.


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24 Oct 2019, 3:11 pm

It's been said "matter of factly" - "We're entitled to our own opinions, not our own facts!"



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25 Oct 2019, 9:50 am

Meistersinger wrote:
Fnord wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
Meistersinger wrote:
There’s no such thing as a bad opinion. Conversely, there’s no such thing as a good opinion. To quote my jackass of a brother, “Opinions are like a**holes: everyone has one!”
"...and they all stink." is how you're supposed finish the saying.
I had always heard it ended with “... and they’re usually full of s***!”

Or maybe I’m thinking of opinions being like politicians... ?


In my case, my brothers use that phrase as an insult and a put down, meaning they’re always right and I’m always wrong, even if I can prove to them fifteen different ways to Sunday that I was right.

They weren’t the only ones to do that. Dad used to pull the same crap on me. Any wonder why, to this day, I am made to feel like sh!t?


That sucks.

Your abusive family used the phrase a little differently (to abuse )than do most folks (to enlighten). So that's why they cut off that last part. Including "and they all stink" maybe gross, but at least implies that EVERY one's opinion (including the speaker's own) is suspect. How convenient that they left it out. :lol:



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25 Oct 2019, 10:54 am

A bad opinion is when you mention you like something while on the internet that another person hates, and then they automatically hate you and then proceed to verbally and emotionally abuse you. :(



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25 Oct 2019, 11:58 am

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A bad opinion is when you mention you like something while on the internet that another person hates, and then they automatically hate you and then proceed to verbally and emotionally abuse you. :(



So if someone didn't like Nintendo and I said I liked it, that is a bad opinion? Okay :lol:


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26 Oct 2019, 1:25 pm

League_Girl wrote:
lostonearth35 wrote:
A bad opinion is when you mention you like something while on the internet that another person hates, and then they automatically hate you and then proceed to verbally and emotionally abuse you. :(



So if someone didn't like Nintendo and I said I liked it, that is a bad opinion? Okay :lol:


Kinda like when I was a little kid... I was aware of people admonishing each other for saying "bad words", but I didn't quite grasp the concept of profanity yet.

So apparently anything I didn't want to hear was …"a bad word".

Mom would tell me that when I was a little kid and she told me "NO!" I would break down and say "[sniff] you said a bad word... wahhhhhh." :lol:



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27 Oct 2019, 2:36 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
lostonearth35 wrote:
A bad opinion is when you mention you like something while on the internet that another person hates, and then they automatically hate you and then proceed to verbally and emotionally abuse you. :(



So if someone didn't like Nintendo and I said I liked it, that is a bad opinion? Okay :lol:


Kinda like when I was a little kid... I was aware of people admonishing each other for saying "bad words", but I didn't quite grasp the concept of profanity yet.

So apparently anything I didn't want to hear was …"a bad word".

Mom would tell me that when I was a little kid and she told me "NO!" I would break down and say "[sniff] you said a bad word... wahhhhhh." :lol:



Funny fact here, any word that is hurtful or has a negative meaning to it is a bad word for a small child. I took this so literal it backfired on my mother when I was 8. Most kids forget they were told stupid is a bad word and idiot and moron and so on. But I took it so literal I remembered them so I thought if those are not bad words including the word duh, then s**t must not be a bad word either or f**k. So I kept saying the f word. My mom had to slap my mouth to get me to stop saying it.


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