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lostonearth35
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04 Dec 2019, 11:48 am

Antivaxxers are horrible, obnoxious, egotistic people and I cannot stand them.

I hate it when they say the diseases vaccines protect you from are harmless. Yeah, if you call drowning in your own mucus from whooping cough "harmless".

I hate it when they say "None of my kids are vaccinated and they all turned out fine". That's because of a thing called "herd immunity". Since most people are vaccinated, the few that aren't don't have much to worry about. But because more people aren't vaccinating, the diseases are coming back, more people will be carrying them, and the individuals who aren't able to be vaccinated, like cancer patients and infants who are too young, are going to be in danger.

So yeah, people should be fined for not vaccinating their kids. You can be fined for something like parking somewhere illegally, but not fined for something that's endangering the lives of your kids and other people? Wake up!



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10 Dec 2019, 10:19 am

Vaccines are an important way to combat serious diseases.

Globally, measles incidence has fallen by 2/3, from 145 cases per 1 million people in 2000 to 49 cases per 1 million people in 2018. This was driven by large reductions in measles in Africa, South-East Asia, and the Western Pacific. The CDC estimates that more than 23 million lives were saved by vaccines from 2000 to 2018.

Measles cases have surged elsewhere, particularly in Europe and the Americas. In the former, measles incidence has nearly doubled in two decades; in the latter, measles has increased by 1100%.

Currently, there is a measles outbreak in Congo that has infected roughly a quarter million people and killed 5,000. Unlike in rich countries, where people are rejecting vaccines, citizens in countries like Congo are suffering from poverty, war, and lack of access to healthcare.

Source: Measles Cases Up 1100% In Americas Since 2000, But Down Globally By 66%


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10 Dec 2019, 6:59 pm

Measles Outbreak: Why ‘Measles Parties’ Are A Bad Idea For Parents

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Health officials made a specific point to condemn the resurgence of “measles parties,” get-togethers where parents gather unvaccinated children with kids already suffering with measles in order to intentionally infect the group at a young age.

Remember Chickenpox Parties? Kentucky Governor Says He Let His 9 Children Get the Virus
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Amid a renewed national conversation about childhood vaccinations, Gov. Matt Bevin of Kentucky said this week that he and his wife made sure all nine of their children got chickenpox.

“Every single one of my kids had the chickenpox,” Mr. Bevin said in an interview on Tuesday with a radio station in Bowling Green, Ky. “They got the chickenpox on purpose because we found a neighbor that had it and I went and made sure every one of my kids was exposed to it, and they got it. They had it as children. They were miserable for a few days, and they all turned out fine.”

Experts said that the practice Mr. Bevin described was antiquated, a holdover from the days before 1995, when a vaccine for chickenpox became publicly available. Back then, so-called chickenpox parties were set up to spread the disease from one child to the next, under the belief that contracting chickenpox as a young child was safer than as an adult.

The issue emerged in Kentucky in recent days after a student at a Catholic school sued the Northern Kentucky Health Department, claiming it violated his First Amendment rights when it prevented him from participating in basketball because he refused to be vaccinated against chickenpox. An outbreak of chickenpox — 32 cases — had been reported at the school, Assumption Academy in Walton, Ky.

Filed on behalf of the student, Jerome Kunkel, a high school senior and the captain of the basketball team, the lawsuit argued that banning him from playing violated his right to freedom of religion. Being vaccinated, the suit said, would go against Mr. Kunkel’s religious beliefs as a practicing Catholic, because the vaccine contains “aborted fetal cells.”


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10 Dec 2019, 10:53 pm

I had the chicken when I was a kid and back then it wasn't a big deal, lots of kids got it. But now I have the virus laying dormant somewhere in my body and one day it might come back as shingles, which basically makes chicken pox look like a couple of stubborn pimples. I read that if the rash is in the eye area it can cause vision loss. Unless you get vaccinated fro shingles, which I plan to when I turn 50.



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10 Dec 2019, 11:04 pm

The husband of my cousin had shingles. It was a very debilitating disease with a lot of shooting pain and rashes. Maybe ten to a hundred times worse than chickenpox. And even when it went away for a couple years, it would come back again.

After listening to the pain he experienced with shingles, varicella zoster, my wife and I had the vaccine shots.


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