This shutdown is far deadlier than the virus

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or we can't really control nature and it's subsiding the way viruses do as may approachs.

A lockdown may prevented the large gatherings in Florida, like Spring Break, that were ideal for spreading the virus. But, it would have required effective leadership that we just didn't have. Or a police state.

I like what Daniel Shmachtenberger said recently in an interview - the degree that Covid would have compromised all of the instutions that we depend on right after the medical establishment would have been the real risk. That's still somewhat of a risk but with the shelter-at-home orders it seems like we skated by that one.

As far as the damage to the economy and potential as some people have noted for this to turn into loss of civil liberties - I worry about that as well and it's pretty clear that we're going to be living in quite a different world when this is over. Most of that will be economic, ie. a literal depression, and we may see something like Patriot Act x2 with respect to the handling of the virus. Are we likely to see China-style social credit systems overruling the constitution in the US anytime soon? Likely not but this is clearly leading us to a much more challenging spot.

They should only apply lockdown to the elderly, non-economically active population. I have to agree that the lockdown is worse than the virus. It's harming business. How will people like my brother in law recover when the government is acting like a nanny? We just need common sense. Around 80% of those who get the virus will be asymtomatic or be able to recover at home.

There's never been a lockdown for regular flu, yet that kills people too.

I've only broken lockdown once - a cross country walk/jog on isolated mountain bike trails near the river. It was so liberating to see a few wild flowers and just be free.

@Darmok: It's got nothing to do with the Left - you're politicizing the issue. But the overzealous bureaucrats in our country are coming up with stupid regulations from "Level 5" (hard lockdown) to "Level 1 (easiest). It makes them feel like they're in control. Nothing like telling people what to do. And Aspies hate to be coerced.

I feel that we have hit the worst case scinario. A continual shutdown.

That's not normal. They're handling this crisis very badly.

cvirus gets compared to flu virus, because the flu is also a pandemic that spreads the same way and kills the same type of people as cvirus in huge numbers, yet no one ever tried to keep it from killing hundreds of thousands each year, which it has.

^ Exactly!

The South Koreans never had an official lockdown. They not so bombastic as to fly in the face of facts, they'll be back in business soon. Same for NZ. They had the right idea. We're a bunch of brats. We're f****d.

Typical flu is somewhere between five and thirty-five times less deadly than COVID-19 and can be mitigated by vaccination. It’s simply untrue to say nobody every tried to stop flu - we spend huge amounts of money fighting it every year.

If not for the lockdowns then we would have had a plague comparable to the Spanish flu, which killed more people than WWI. As DeepHour rightly points out, the global population is much higher now so a less-deadly disease can kill as many people.

We’re still in the early stages. Hopefully the virus begins to die out. But if it becomes a perennial virus that sweeps the globe every year like the flu, then we will be stuck with it forever. We’ll return to everyday life, but with a much higher risk of death than we had before. The economic damage doesn’t come close.

there's lots of countries better off than s.korea and n.zealand, what did they do?

i shouldn't have said no one ever did anything to prevent the hundreds of thousands of yearly flu deaths, what i meant is no one ever went to such extremes, or anything close to it really