Comparison of Bible Translations, what can we say?

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21 Apr 2008, 11:20 pm

Yeah that makes since but don't you think the translation are a little loooooong?

Not to mention the other posts you've done on this thread are kind of loooooong to really look at.

Linguistics...that's a good one for discussion. :wtg:


*may have a double meaning.*


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21 Apr 2008, 11:29 pm

CityAsylum wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Because this is not religious or philosophical, it has to do with linguistics.
Oh, OK, then comparisons between operatic libretti are OK for this topic, right? Those can be really interesting! :D
I mean, even though the topic heading says "Bible" rather than "Linguistics" . . .


If you wish to and you have multiple translations of the basic item to compare the translated items, then please do and ask any questions you like about it. The Bible is a fairly common and basic item which has been translated into thousands of languages by many people in the last 1700 years +. It is a resource that is readily available and universally accessible today, except in North Korea...



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21 Apr 2008, 11:32 pm

Are you sure about North Korea? :?


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21 Apr 2008, 11:40 pm

Have you looked at the differences between the Hebrew and English translations of some of the Psalms?

For example, Psalm 37 has some very interesting discrepancies which completely obscure the original meaning or intent, because many Hebrew and Aramaic words have several distinct meanings.

These translation issues were also how it came to be said that Moses (and later, Jews) had horns - it was a mistranslation of the word keren, which can mean ray, radiant, shine, horn, pride or power.

The word "horns" was chosen, but the intent was actually "rays", since Moses was being described as have rays coming forth from his head.

That is my lecture for this evening. :D



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21 Apr 2008, 11:43 pm

MissConstrue wrote:
Are you sure about North Korea? :?
Not entirely, but I heard they'll execute their own people if they make a radio able to tune more then the National station and even Chinese fashion magazines are contraband. It is impossible to say with 100% certainty that there are no Bibles in N. Korea, but it would certainly be difficult to say the government would let citizens go unpunished if they were found to have one. I can't know though.



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21 Apr 2008, 11:52 pm

CityAsylum wrote:
Have you looked at the differences between the Hebrew and English translations of some of the Psalms?

For example, Psalm 37 has some very interesting discrepancies which completely obscure the original meaning or intent, because many Hebrew and Aramaic words have several distinct meanings.

These translation issues were also how it came to be said that Moses (and later, Jews) had horns - it was a mistranslation of the word keren, which can mean ray, radiant, shine, horn, pride or power.

The word "horns" was chosen, but the intent was actually "rays", since Moses was being described as have rays coming forth from his head.

That is my lecture for this evening. :D


Keren should have been lucem (or another form of luc/x-, which I'm not qualified to say exactly.)

Michelangelo's Moses had horns, but I imagine it would have been more difficult to sculpt luminosity... :P



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21 Apr 2008, 11:57 pm

Luminosity would be an impractical thing to sculpt unless one would use the term as a metaphor. :P


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22 Apr 2008, 12:02 am

MissConstrue wrote:
Luminosity would be an impractical thing to sculpt unless one would use the term as a metaphor. :P

That would then turn realism into abstraction... :scratch:

Could alway use some phosphorescent paint... :twisted:



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22 Apr 2008, 12:08 am

Yet one's perception could imply abstraction into realism, therefore turning their dream into a work of art. :hic:


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22 Apr 2008, 12:11 am

Take your time. :roll:


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22 Apr 2008, 12:13 am

MissConstrue wrote:
Yet one's perception could imply abstraction into realism, therefore turning their dream into a work of art. :hic:


There is something that weirds out this picture, what is it?

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22 Apr 2008, 12:28 am

Well, I'm not good at this but I see a small sainty lady carrying a dead white bird amongst a bunch of busy men that look like they're about to go into a battle. The lady with dead bird really stands out to me.....I don't know. The whole painting looks as though it were chaotic.


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22 Apr 2008, 12:31 am

MissConstrue wrote:
Well, I'm not good at this but I see a small sainty lady carrying a dead white bird amongst a bunch of busy men that look like they're about to go into a battle. The lady with dead bird really stands out to me.....I don't know. The whole painting looks as though it were chaotic.


Yep, that's what stood out to the people who hired Rembrandt to paint the picture. Their reaction was like, "what the heck?"



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22 Apr 2008, 12:48 am

I must say the Rembrandt painting conjures an image of the word oxymoron.


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22 Apr 2008, 10:42 am

OXYMORON



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22 Apr 2008, 11:17 am

Which is exactly what Rembrandt was about.


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