14 Aug 2008, 12:02 am
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14 Aug 2008, 12:06 am
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claire333 wrote:
Do you mean like remote viewing or actual physical time travel?
Physical time travel. The timeline would have changed because of Callinicus. Without him, we could be living in an Islamic super-nation, which would be the timeline Callinicus would have destroyed.
that is the dumbest thing I have ever heard in my life
Listen to yourself sometime...
14 Aug 2008, 12:11 am
14 Aug 2008, 12:18 am
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
I've had this thought before, but after watching Timeline and Thrill Seekers it has come back into my thoughts. Yes, I'm being serious. I don't have a clue what this would be an allegory of anyway.
I have seen Timeline, which I liked, but I haven't seen Thrill Seekers (Time Shifters) which looks to be interesting, I guess I should go looking for it to watch it
ok I see, so I see that the idea of Callinicus traveling through time would be to prevent Islam to take over the world rather than Christianity, it is interesting, but there is something to wonder about here, is it because in his original timeline, Islam was the prevalent western religion and travelled back in time to changed this? or, his original timeline was the same as ours and for some reason he travelled back to influence history?
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Maybe I could write it up in more detail after re-researching what I did before, but I'm not very creative when it comes to doing fiction writing and would give that to someone else if they want.
I am the same, sometimes, some things like this one, I start to think of the idea of writing a fictional story, but I feel I am bad at this, I also don't have much creativity, but then, I could try.
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14 Aug 2008, 12:48 am
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
The timeline he would come from, though it would be indeterminate as to the exact details, would have had Christian Europe crushed - and after that India and eventually China too. There would have only been a remnant of Christians left and once the genome were discovered a systematic annihilation of the Jewish people as well.
Hmmm, India and China, not sure about that, I think is too much to think of they taking over India and China as well, while Christianity during the Crusades and later didn't, but it could be. In which case, that suggests that time can change, and that a new reality would replace the old one. I don't know how the other movie handles time travel, but in Timeline, it treats time as fixed, one you cannot change, as you can see in the movie, things were already seen to be done by the travellers before going back in time themselves.
We could get the problem of few temporal paradoxes in this case, as shown in The Time Machine, the reason for inventing a time machine, but then, it wouldn't be necessarily the case, however, changing history in this way, would likely change a lot of things in a new timeline, like social changes, people's lives, which very likely could prevent him from being born.
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As to how a temporal displacement device would be made by rebels and not the property of the government - I haven't a clue.
lol, not much either, but if we look a little into theorical physics about time travel, we could guess on how they would create a device, if we take real life into account
14 Aug 2008, 12:55 am
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14 Aug 2008, 12:56 am
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Hmmm, India and China, not sure about that, I think is too much to think of they taking over India and China as well, while Christianity during the Crusades and later didn't, but it could be. In which case, that suggests that time can change, and that a new reality would replace the old one. I don't know how the other movie handles time travel, but in Timeline, it treats time as fixed, one you cannot change, as you can see in the movie, things were already seen to be done by the travellers before going back in time themselves.
Islam did a good part of conquering India as it was, but after they acquired the lands and mercenaries (such as the Janissaries) from Europe, they would have had less difficulty in conquering the rest of the land.
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We could get the problem of few temporal paradoxes in this case, as shown in The Time Machine, the reason for inventing a time machine, but then, it wouldn't be necessarily the case, however, changing history in this way, would likely change a lot of things in a new timeline, like social changes, people's lives, which very likely could prevent him from being born.
If Callinicus were to be a time-traveler, then his timeline would be destroyed and he would not have been born. But that may just be that he could never return and not that he never existed.
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As to how a temporal displacement device would be made by rebels and not the property of the government - I haven't a clue.
lol, not much, but if we look a little into theorical physics about time travel, we could guess on how they would create a device, if we take real life into account
Tachyons? I don't know, but it's no less possible then getting something from nothing.
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