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15 Sep 2008, 10:21 pm

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LOL are there realy aliens... I realy dont think so... Most of those people are nutcases... :?


Have you spoken to them? or are you just saying that because it's the cool thing to do..

I think you'd be surprised by the sheer number of people who have seen UFO's... millions.. so you have to be saying that millions of people are just nutcases and dont know a flying saucer from a bird or airplane.. that, is sad to think something so stupid..

just goes to show how stupid most people are.. it really does not matter how many witnesses see something.. hell, even if you see it you wont believe it.. because it's pretty unbelievable..

here's a good video of an abduction with scientific analysis

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkeOUzKRzLY









ok, forget that video.. THIS is a must see!!... at first watching it, i thought there;s no way in hell that it's real... just pay close attention to everything.. "If it's fake they ought to win oscars".. this is the truth... ive never seen real emotion put into a fake alien abduction movie, and this was a little surreal.. please check it out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gY3zGUckKOY


Now im not trying to shutout the idea (itd be cool) However theres realy no scientific evidence twards it...


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15 Sep 2008, 10:23 pm

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LOL are there realy aliens... I realy dont think so... Most of those people are nutcases... :?


Have you spoken to them? or are you just saying that because it's the cool thing to do..

I think you'd be surprised by the sheer number of people who have seen UFO's... millions.. so you have to be saying that millions of people are just nutcases and dont know a flying saucer from a bird or airplane.. that, is sad to think something so stupid..

just goes to show how stupid most people are.. it really does not matter how many witnesses see something.. hell, even if you see it you wont believe it.. because it's pretty unbelievable..

here's a good video of an abduction with scientific analysis

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkeOUzKRzLY









ok, forget that video.. THIS is a must see!!... at first watching it, i thought there;s no way in hell that it's real... just pay close attention to everything.. "If it's fake they ought to win oscars".. this is the truth... ive never seen real emotion put into a fake alien abduction movie, and this was a little surreal.. please check it out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gY3zGUckKOY


Now im not trying to shutout the idea (itd be cool) However theres realy no scientific evidence twards it...


Believe me there is, it's just out of your grasp.. if there's aliens here then the government knows about it, and they do.



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15 Sep 2008, 10:24 pm

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I saw a UFO once while driving to work, just before midnight. I only told 1 person, because it sounded pretty far-fetched. All I know is that there was something hovering just above treetop level, in an area where there are no helicopters or roads. To this day, I have no idea what it could have been, and wish I would have stuck around longer, in an attempt to find out. :?


ahh.. i wouldnt want to get abducted >.< id freak way outt.. i did see a ufo once though, and like you said it was hovering above a tree, i could see it from my brother's bedroom window, and when i went to get my dad by the time i came back it was gone =/



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15 Sep 2008, 10:28 pm

Here is another great video... unfortunately, the good version of this which also has scientific analysis has also been taken away from youtube, as all of the credible videos have.. im telling you, the government reaaally dont want you to see this stuff... i wish you could see the fully analysed version.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79qeCA-F ... eyezb5YtaD




Here's a great one, you can NOT debunk it.. you want real alien evidence?.. just follow the link!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5PQleH2Hz8





this one explains why they're here... it creeps me out, and it makes a lot of sense why they are coming more and more.. and sending us signs and whatnot.. but a must see

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6WpmAycHEU



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16 Sep 2008, 5:07 pm

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Most people I know have seen a UFO. Even my dad.

I wanna see an alien.

It bums me out, that they apparently aren't talkin' to me. :(


I saw an UFO once Pheon, I was a kid but I'm the only one that saw it, I told my mon and dad, but they didn't even bother to look at the sky :(


Did you really?


:help: Yes, I was kidnapped!
:tired: I tried to stay awake but fell asleep
:wall: Then I tried to scape from my captors
:cyclopsani: :cyclopsani: :cyclopsani:but they where too many
:ninja: but I kicked their asses
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just kidding :P


I was a kid missC, like 10 y.o. It was late and we were returning from my grandparents house, in the middle of nowhere, since they live in a small town 4 hours away from our house.
I was lying in the back seat, looking at the sky, there where some clouds, when all of the sudden I saw some weird weird lights in the sky! I told my mom and dad to look at the sky, but they apparently where in the middle of some serious adult talk, because they didn't pay attention to me :(

That's why now that I'm older I try to call other people's attention by making threads about the ends of the worlds :lol:


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16 Sep 2008, 5:20 pm

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... if there's aliens here then the government knows about it, and they do.

If there is extra-terrestrial life, then provide evidence - something other than blurry images and video special effects.

If the government "knows" that there is extra-terrestrial life, then explain how you know that the government knows, and provide evidence of your assertions - something other than allegations of "missing" or "supressed" data, fallacious reasoning, or unvalidated testimony.



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16 Sep 2008, 5:42 pm

Not the appreciation threads again.


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16 Sep 2008, 5:44 pm

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... if there's aliens here then the government knows about it, and they do.

If there is extra-terrestrial life, then provide evidence - something other than blurry images and video special effects.

If the government "knows" that there is extra-terrestrial life, then explain how you know that the government knows, and provide evidence of your assertions - something other than allegations of "missing" or "supressed" data, fallacious reasoning, or unvalidated testimony.


You're requests for evidence are too unrealistic.. it's because you're unwilling to look at real evidence, the same way arceologists ignore many of their findings because it does not fit into their theories.. so half goes ignored. If you dont believe in aliens then leave, i dont desire to convert you.



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16 Sep 2008, 7:41 pm

Well a U.F.O. is just an unidentified flying object. Factor in selective perception, desire for the fantastic, desire for fame, and you've got a U.F.O. story.
I can't say whether Alien crafts have visited Earth or not, but I can say there are reasons for U.F.O. reports other than aliens.



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16 Sep 2008, 7:57 pm

There was a major siting when my mother was a child, and she saw an actual alien space craft. I believe wholeheartedly in other life forms. I think it would be impossible for Earth to be the only inhabited planet.



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17 Sep 2008, 10:44 am

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Well a U.F.O. is just an unidentified flying object. Factor in selective perception, desire for the fantastic, desire for fame, and you've got a U.F.O. story.
I can't say whether Alien crafts have visited Earth or not, but I can say there are reasons for U.F.O. reports other than aliens.


Sure all of those things are probably responsible for some sightings. I really want it to be true ('desire for the fantastic'), but I haven't seen anything that I couldn't say "plane" about. They would probably have to land in my back pasture and come out and let me tug on their faces (mask check), before I would believe it. :)

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I believe wholeheartedly in other life forms. I think it would be impossible for Earth to be the only inhabited planet.


I think this has been mathematically proven. Even so far as to prove there must be intelligent life. But when you factor in the odds of another one of these intelligent life forms finding us... Well, I'm sure all sorts of neat things happen to that equation.

But my father saw something. He and his brother were camping when he was a teenager and the damn thing nearly landed on them. They stayed low in the grass and hid.

He said it landed on a tripod base with no wheels. The craft itself was circular and noiseless except when it hit the ground. It stayed for about 20 minutes and left. They went and looked at the indents in the ground it had left behind immediately and the next day (still there.)

He says he certainly doesn't know if it was aliens (because no one came out of the whatever-it-was that he could see) or some sort of experimental craft, but it was definitely weird.

I love my father dearly, but this is not a man known for his imagination. Sooo.... *shrug* I don't know that I am a believer, but I'm willing to say 'could be'.


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17 Sep 2008, 11:22 am

Can someone comment on this f*****g video... im sick of debating over nothing, at least debate or something.. 62 children saw an alien spacecraft land and aliens get out and walk around in Africa.. this can't be debunked.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5PQleH2Hz8



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17 Sep 2008, 1:24 pm

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Can someone comment on this f***ing video... im sick of debating over nothing, at least debate or something.. 62 children saw an alien spacecraft land and aliens get out and walk around in Africa.. this can't be debunked.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5PQleH2Hz8


Those kids saw something. They were pretty consistent with their stories and genuinely confused and frightened. Hard to say exactly what though. I think it is silly to discount all anecdotal evidence which seems to be the trend for the die-hard debunkers. That's probably what you will run into with this one, that and that they were children.

All in all, pretty weird. You tube or not, I'll raise my eyebrows at that video.

Sorry, I'm not much of a debater, I'm having a bad brain day.


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17 Sep 2008, 1:45 pm

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Can someone comment on this f***ing video... im sick of debating over nothing, at least debate or something.. 62 children saw an alien spacecraft land and aliens get out and walk around in Africa.. this can't be debunked.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5PQleH2Hz8


Those kids saw something. They were pretty consistent with their stories and genuinely confused and frightened. Hard to say exactly what though. I think it is silly to discount all anecdotal evidence which seems to be the trend for the die-hard debunkers. That's probably what you will run into with this one, that and that they were children.

All in all, pretty weird. You tube or not, I'll raise my eyebrows at that video.

Sorry, I'm not much of a debater, I'm having a bad brain day.

It isn't strictly that anecdotal evidence is completely inadmissible. The problem is that this is in the "extraordinary claims" domain, so it's just not anything like enough.


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17 Sep 2008, 2:40 pm

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Can someone comment on this f***ing video... im sick of debating over nothing, at least debate or something.. 62 children saw an alien spacecraft land and aliens get out and walk around in Africa.. this can't be debunked.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5PQleH2Hz8


Those kids saw something. They were pretty consistent with their stories and genuinely confused and frightened. Hard to say exactly what though. I think it is silly to discount all anecdotal evidence which seems to be the trend for the die-hard debunkers. That's probably what you will run into with this one, that and that they were children.

All in all, pretty weird. You tube or not, I'll raise my eyebrows at that video.

Sorry, I'm not much of a debater, I'm having a bad brain day.

It isn't strictly that anecdotal evidence is completely inadmissible. The problem is that this is in the "extraordinary claims" domain, so it's just not anything like enough.


What'd inadmissable about it? Are you teling me that if this was shown to a jury, and the jury had to make a decision as to whether or not those kids saw something, that they would accuse them of lieing?.. or perhaps it was just a bunch of funny men in costumes who happen to have a spaceship!

I know it's the new cool thing to debunk solid evidence and use labels, but how does it affect you emotionally? does it help?
Why do they have witnesses in courtrooms? Why do they count as evidence and a lie detector does not?

we have here 62 common witnesses. 62!.. that's more than a jury and enough to go down in record for christs sake..



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17 Sep 2008, 2:47 pm

The only reason you 'believe' in aliens is because the media has told you to ! !!

The mathematics show that the possibility of life is so vanishingly small, that it's bloody amazing we exist ! ! Carl Sagan started that stupid 'waste of space' stuff. People DO see things, and they always have. Check the History books. People have always seen 'ultra-terrestrials' and they always will. But that DOESN'T mean there are little green men in nuts and bolts spaceships visiting us ! !

PUUUUHHHHLEEEZZZEEEEE!! !!


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