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Do you support population laws
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28 Nov 2008, 12:05 pm

The only thing that can really help the situation (short of some horrible catastrophe) is better education. People need to be educated on the use of contraception, and how to raise families before trying it themselves.

Edit: Or, you could all join the Cybermen, become like us, and never have to worry about biological reproduction again. :twisted:



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28 Nov 2008, 1:27 pm

Cyberman wrote:
Humans breed like vermin. Sooner or later, there won't be enough resources to feed everyone. So I would be in favor of it, but how could one possibly enforce it?


I don't believe that our current way of life is sustainable.

The world's cluttered up with a load of technological junk.
People still exploit each other.
There's an exponential yearly increase in population.
We pollute the atmosphere with industry.
There are wars over resources.

What have we done to the world?



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28 Nov 2008, 1:37 pm

There does need to be actions taken to keep the population under control, but I don't think going all China-ified is a democratic option at all. Chinese law sucks, why would we want ANYTHING in common with it?

I think instead of legislation, we need to change society. There is too much pressure on people to have kids. People who never have kids are looked down upon, which is wrong.

I'm never having kids, me. It turns you strange. :drunken:


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28 Nov 2008, 1:41 pm

gina-ghettoprincess wrote:
There does need to be actions taken to keep the population under control, but I don't think going all China-ified is a democratic option at all. Chinese law sucks, why would we want ANYTHING in common with it?

I think instead of legislation, we need to change society. There is too much pressure on people to have kids. People who never have kids are looked down upon, which is wrong.

I'm never having kids, me. It turns you strange. :drunken:


I agree 100%! We are brought up to think having kids is the ultimate goal of life or something!



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28 Nov 2008, 1:46 pm

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gina-ghettoprincess wrote:
There does need to be actions taken to keep the population under control, but I don't think going all China-ified is a democratic option at all. Chinese law sucks, why would we want ANYTHING in common with it?

I think instead of legislation, we need to change society. There is too much pressure on people to have kids. People who never have kids are looked down upon, which is wrong.

I'm never having kids, me. It turns you strange. :drunken:


I agree 100%! We are brought up to think having kids is the ultimate goal of life or something!


I wasn't brought up that way.

I was told never to get married because kids are too much trouble.

Well that's what my parents thought of me anyway. :roll:



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28 Nov 2008, 1:58 pm

gina-ghettoprincess wrote:
I think instead of legislation, we need to change society. There is too much pressure on people to have kids. People who never have kids are looked down upon, which is wrong. :drunken:


YES. The number of times people have looked at me weirdly when I tell them we don't have children. And, it may just be the way I see it, but I get the feeling that people in our respective families who have kids get treated more as adults than hubby and I do, which is just plain unfair.

Apparently the 'latest' status symbol in middle-class British society is to have four kids, because it shows you have to have the money to pay for a big car, house, nanny etc. I really feel for these kids. It's not just that people have too many, it's that when they do, their reasons for having them seem to be all screwed up.


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28 Nov 2008, 3:55 pm

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We should get rid of all the people who have mental illnesses and disorders, gays, bisexuals, pedophiles, criminals, people w/ birth defects, etc. *Puts a gun to her head*
are you joking? I hope?



Yes.



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28 Nov 2008, 5:46 pm

I am for population control. It would have to be a world-wide initative, though, for it to be effective.

BTW, the Bible (I'm Christian) tells me to be a good steward of the earth. Having a realistic awareness of the limited resources and being a responsible consumer of those are part of that. I do it with regard to my cattle, and I do it in other areas. I worry about future generations.



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28 Nov 2008, 6:23 pm

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It's not just that people have too many, it's that when they do, their reasons for having them seem to be all screwed up.


Tell me about it, my sister-in-law has just had her 3rd child, she had her for attention, she wont admiti it of course, but everyone knows about it.

The first child was a girl, and she was born while the mom was in grade 12, it was a shock but loved her and gave a lot of support.

The second was a boy and was planned, we where all happy.

When she annouced the third, we where all 'huh?' why another, was she not happy with what she had? I agree that babies are cute, but they don't stay babies for long, I have a feeling that when the baby reaches 4 years old she will want another, and their financial situation is REALLY bad (they owe my parents $7000)


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28 Nov 2008, 6:25 pm

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I worry about future generations.


Me too, today's generations of kids are going to have it hard big time when they grow up. Parents never have children for the potential life's interest at heart, they want kids just for the experiece of having children, continue bloodline, ect. Its just selfish.


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28 Nov 2008, 6:36 pm

Birth rate in the developed world has already plummeted and population is being kept level only by immigration.

The environment is not damaged by population in and of itself. It is damaged by abuse and overuse of resources. A village in Africa uses fewer resources than a single family in the United States.

Divorce has a disastrous environmental impact on the planet yet no one complains about that, compared to people who complain about birth rates. Groups of people (i.e. families) sharing a dwelling is a highly efficient way to utilize resources. When divorce occurs the unit splits up into multiple dwellings, doubling or tripling resources used. The staggering environmental impact of divorce is a worldwide phenomena that has been researched and is not contained to the US.



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28 Nov 2008, 6:40 pm

I would absolutely support the following:
Mandatory reversible vasectomies for all male children by the age of 10. Alternatively, I would support any method of reversible contraception prior to puberty for both males and females.
Rigid, federally mandated testing prior to the contraception being reversed (there are far too many stupid, ass-backwards dick-wads breeding more stupid, ass-backwards dickwads).
Limit of 2 children per approved couple.
Prison time for anyone not adhering to new population control laws.
There, I said it.
Let the stoning commence.



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28 Nov 2008, 6:51 pm

Instead of passing laws, why not let nature take its course via Social Darwinism (when applied to other nations)? Do we really need to feed starving families of the third world and keep maintaining unsustainable populations? What we really need to advocate is responsibility. I am disgusted at the blatant totalitarianism advocated at this website. It's sickening! Reproduction is a right.



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28 Nov 2008, 7:46 pm

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I am disgusted at the blatant totalitarianism advocated at this website. It's sickening! Reproduction is a right.


:roll:



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28 Nov 2008, 7:52 pm

NocturnalQuilter wrote:
timeisdead wrote:
I am disgusted at the blatant totalitarianism advocated at this website. It's sickening! Reproduction is a right.


:roll:


Reproduction is a right but that doesn't mean it's our job to take care of them. Maybe these morons on welfare would reproduce less if given fewer financial incentives to do so. Have you ever thought of that?



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28 Nov 2008, 7:56 pm

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We should get rid of all the people who have mental illnesses and disorders, gays, bisexuals, pedophiles, criminals, people w/ birth defects, etc. *Puts a gun to her head*

Who decides the definition of a mental illness, disorder, or birth defect?


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